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Discussion starter · #42 ·
I have Nissan Maxima which uses Matic D or equivalent.
On this Bob the Oil Guy thread, someone use MaxLife ok and another used Valvoline Dex/Merc as substitute for Matic D.
But it looks like Dextron III is a better substitute.
Now if your Honda was originally specd for Z1 (a fluid no longer available), Your Honda will be fine on it. I've got an 2004 Civic on it and shifting great. Others here using it as a substitute for Z1. We've logged 100s of 1000s ov miles using Full Synthetic Valvoline MaxLife ATF.
 
Yesterday, I did D&F transmission fluid in my other car, a Nissan, with MaxLife ATF. Based on test drive and feels today, I won't consider it for my 2005 Pilot.
Based on your results, I won't consider a Nissan for my Maxlife ATF. :p
 
Sorry if I missed it.

What fluid did you use on your changes?
Wow I can't believe I wrote that without specifying... Maxlife ATF multi-vehicle. I've always used Z1 or DW1 over the past 17 years of owning Honda products so that was a big change for me.

So far so good btw.
 
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Gentlemen, please refer to what I'm still hoping will be the official Piloteers fluid list, added by a mod or admin as the second post to @Tacoma'03Pilot's equally thorough 1st gen buyer's guide soon-to-be sticky. A guy can dream, can't he? :)

 
I'm still using a convenience store PS fluid for over 2 years after mine somehow got low once and starting whininig on steering while on a cross country trip.

Still full, no problems. I think it was Prestone- was in a yellow bottle. That's all they had. Saved me and still in there!
 
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DW-1 for my wife’s Pilot. We haven’t had problems with it so don’t feel the need to make a change. The OEM fluid doesn’t cost me much more than Maxlife would since I prefer to stay away from Walmart.

In my opinion closer interval 1x drain and fills, with the fluid of your choice, is an important factor in Honda transmission longevity. Our Pilot gets a 1x drain and fill every 15k miles. It comes out to costing me about $35 every other year. Even if I switched to an aftermarket fluid I’d still keep the same fluid change interval for my peace of mind.
 
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DW-1 for my wife’s Pilot. We haven’t had problems with it so don’t feel the need to make a change. The OEM fluid doesn’t cost me much more than Maxlife would since I prefer to stay away from Walmart.

In my opinion closer interval 1x drain and fills, with the fluid of your choice, is an important factor in Honda transmission longevity. Our Pilot gets a 1x drain and fill every 15k miles. It comes out to costing me about $35 every other year. Even if I switched to an aftermarket fluid I’d still keep the same fluid change interval for my peace of mind.
Based on your results, I won't consider a Nissan for my Maxlife ATF. :p
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With all the CVT nightmares I'm hearing about, should any of my future used vehicle purchases be influenced by as to whether MaxLife ATF can be used as a substitute?
 
My mom bought a Rogue brand new that we inherited around 70k miles. Drove it until about 130k. Gutless but dead reliable. I don't love the feel of a CVT but can't criticize the reliability of it from my experience.
 
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My mom bought a Rogue brand new that we inherited around 70k miles. Drove it until about 130k. Gutless but dead reliable. I don't love the feel of a CVT but can't criticize the reliability of it from my experience.
I'm sure driving style and good maintenance have much to do with it. I think the CVT is less forgiving. I had a 2016 Nissan Pathfinder that I sold for longevity fears.
 
Never liked the rubberband feel of the CVT transmission but two bad experiences was enough. ‘11 Outback had CVT related stalling at intersections and Subie quietly covered the repair at 100k. Nissan used to make good vehicles until they became known for bad transmissions...just ask Scotty. The ‘11 Altima CVT accelerated well with good mpg but had an intermittent case of no forward motion when pulling into a parking spot. Traded the Altima for a 6spd MT Jeep 🤞 and no issues since 2016.
 
I'm sure driving style and good maintenance have much to do with it. I think the CVT is less forgiving. I had a 2016 Nissan Pathfinder that I sold for longevity fears.
Never towed with the Rogue... the Pathfinder does have a tow package that increases the rating, who knows how well the transmission will hold up but it is factory rated. As with many things, it's strange and new and we don't understand how it will hold up like 100 years of the traditional automatic. Because of this, I wouldn't get one to tow heavy/frequently with but when we got our Pilot we were trying to get a new Pathfinder for a similar price and I had no reservations.

Never liked the rubberband feel of the CVT transmission but two bad experiences was enough. ‘11 Outback had CVT related stalling at intersections and Subie quietly covered the repair at 100k. Nissan used to make good vehicles until they became known for bad transmissions...just ask Scotty. The ‘11 Altima CVT accelerated well with good mpg but had an intermittent case of no forward motion when pulling into a parking spot. Traded the Altima for a 6spd MT Jeep 🤞 and no issues since 2016.
If you are taking any car related advice from that clickbait hack I can no longer be internet friends with you. ;) :ROFLMAO:
 
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Nissan used to make good vehicles until they became known for bad transmissions...just ask Scotty.
If you are taking any car related advice from that clickbait hack I can no longer be internet friends with you. ;) :ROFLMAO:
He also says Nissans have improved in the most recent years, since they ditched Renault.

But love him or hate him, or both, you're in luck. :D You can ask him yourself on his new forum.


BTW, he recently gave up the Texas Two-Step
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scotty is a clown show and I wouldn't necessarily trust anything he says to be reliable. just look at his work area it is an absolute mess.
 
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scotty is a clown show and I wouldn't necessarily trust anything he says to be reliable. just look at his work area it is an absolute mess.
By no responses here, I assume there are quite a few messy Piloteers, lol point self
 
Don't look at my shop right now. After a CV boot replacement on the Yaris and all the pilot work I have tools everywhere. It will all get put back but looks like a bomb went off LOL. As for CVT's I'll never own a vehicle with one. They are no good for anything needing torque. Belts and pullies cannot stand up to what real gears can. They are wonderful on a snowmobile that needs to rev to the moon and put the rpms to the snow, but when Polaris put them in ATV's and I watched all those shit the bed in riding groups and me and the other guys with gears have to tow them home after the belts snapped, or got wet and slipped etc. no thank you.
 
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