[Nail Grease]

Took a quick look at the MSDS sheets for Honda DW1.

It's made by Idemitsu. Same guys who make the Amazon product.

http://www.worldpac.com/tagged/HONDA_DW-1_ATF_08200-9008_OES_(USA)_and_CA66844_OES_(Canada).pdf

What a coincidence....

Ya, now I know I don't want Idemitsu Type H in my transmission. Over priced DW-1 that's already overpriced. 5 quart bottle? Marketing team?

 

[Nail Grease]

I was checking out the Aisin DW-1 on RockAuto. They are touting to be the largest transmission fluid manufacturer in the world.

Can't seem to find a full back label on multiple seller websites.

 

[Nail Grease]

I found it strange that Rock Auto also list AC Delco Dexron IV as suitable for my 6-speed Pilot. Even giving it the ❤ symbol.

 

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Bob the oil guy has a Blackstone report on the Austin, I haven't seen one on the BA yet. I'll try to send some in.

Aisin DW-1 ATF specs?

I found the reason. They don't have it as maxlife, only Valvoline high mileage. Facing basic price parity, I will weigh the options.

bobistheoilguy.com

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Bob the oil guy has a Blackstone report on the Austin, I haven't seen one on the BA yet. I'll try to send some in.

Aisin DW-1 ATF specs?

I found the reason. They don't have it as maxlife, only Valvoline high mileage. Facing basic price parity, I will weigh the options.

bobistheoilguy.com

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Hmm, seems like the link didn't display correctly.

 

[Nail Grease]

Bob the oil guy has a Blackstone report on the Austin, I haven't seen one on the BA yet. I'll try to send some in.

Aisin DW-1 ATF specs?

I found the reason. They don't have it as maxlife, only Valvoline high mileage. Facing basic price parity, I will weigh the options.

bobistheoilguy.com

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Only seeing Honda DW-1 Blackstone analysis, not Aisin DW-1.

 

[jimmaki]

Only seeing Honda DW-1 Blackstone analysis, not Aisin DW-1.

I'd love to see a Blackstone analysis of 3.1 to see what percentage of it is gold.

 

[Nail Grease]

I'd love to see a Blackstone analysis of 3.1 to see what percentage of it is gold.

Lol. Ya.
I thought it intresting that RockAuto shows Pentosin as a substitute for 3.1.

 

[jimmaki]

Lol. Ya.
I thought it intresting that RockAuto shows Pentosin as a substitute for 3.1.
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I do believe that even though we've seen Honda ATF evolve over the years with negative benefits (other than to Honda through price), that its glory days of "only use our expensive fluid or else..." are hopefully coming to an end.

 

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Only seeing Honda DW-1 Blackstone analysis, not Aisin DW-1.

Hopefully this image shows up. It is a comparison with Aisin and Honda.
Look under oil type and grade.

 

[Nail Grease]

Hopefully this image shows up. It is a comparison with Aisin and Honda.
Look under oil type and grade.

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Ty.
7.3 viscosity is higher than most. Sill wondering what the back of the bottle says. They seem apprehensive to advertise this as Full Synthetic.

 

[xGS]

Sill wondering what the back of the bottle says. They seem apprehensive to advertise this as Full Synthetic.

How do you even sleep at night?

 

[Nail Grease]

How do you even sleep at night?

You would think if Aisin were full synthetic, they'd print it on the bottle.

 

[Nail Grease]

The Aisin DW-1 safety data sheet says its base oil is "Mineral Oil Mist." Not sure if this is considered full synthetic.

 

[Nail Grease]

After shipping about $20 savings compared to the best price I found for a case of 12 Honda DW-1. Small savings but if just as good as oem, I figure why not.

I assume you meant you found Aisin DW-1?

 

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This is the analysis Blackstone did for the BeckArnely DW-1

 

[plplplpl]

Ooo, that'll roust @Nail Grease out of bed.

 

[Nail Grease]

This is the analysis Blackstone did for the BeckArnely DW-1
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Quote: "We're not convinced this would be a compatible fluid based on the additives."

 

[xGS]

Ooo, that'll roust @Nail Grease out of bed.

Rumor has it he sleeps on a cot in the garage next to the fleet.

 

[plplplpl]

See, I would have guessed on a mechanic's creeper, all swaddled in shop rags.