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About the pour this BA full synthetic DW-1 knock off fluid into my transmission. See what happens. View attachment 138862
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Took it for a test drive. My experience so far is very good. I do feel a noticeable difference in the smoothness of shifting.
So at this point it has about 2/3 MaxLife and 1/3 Beck Arnley DW-1 and about 6 oz of LubeGuard.
 
Sounds like the perfect cocktail. :)
The fluid that came out was a little dark from clutch material. It still smelled fresh. It has only been 5k miles since the 3rd MaxLife drain and fill. Some metallic silt but not a large amount. So far I'm pleased. I feel better that I'm not going to loose the transmission anytime soon.
A family member just took 4 quarts of my Beck Arnley DW-1 to put in his Accord after I made known it was full syn. I stopped a Honda DW-1 sale from happening. Lol.
I still got 4 quarts in my possession. What would you do?
 
What I can say is that Full Synthetic Valvoline MaxLife ATF has a proven track record. Especially in the 5-speed Honda transmission. I'm going to guinea pig the Beck Arnley Full Synthetic DW-1 stuff in this 3rd Gen 6-speed Pilot and see what happens. The Honda DW-1 in this vehicle was black at 19k miles.
Not bashing maxlife, just saying it's claiming full synthetic and not 100% synthetic and maxlife is still a much better choice over Honda ATF that has Zero synthetic claims on the label. I looked at amsoil "100% synthetic ATF" and the still say "follow the manufacturer's normal service schedule". I'll switch myself to maxlife for my next trans flush as it will be an upgrade from OEM Honda ATF but, definitely not going to amsoil as they still recommend manufacturer's service schedule at a premium price.
 
Not bashing maxlife, just saying it's claiming full synthetic and not 100% synthetic and maxlife is still a much better choice over Honda ATF that has Zero synthetic claims on the label. I looked at amsoil "100% synthetic ATF" and the still say "follow the manufacturer's normal service schedule". I'll switch myself to maxlife for my next trans flush as it will be an upgrade from OEM Honda ATF but, definitely not going to amsoil as they still recommend manufacturer's service schedule at a premium price.
I have experience with MaxLife in the 5-speed Honda transmission. It has served us well. Especially in the two 2012 V6 Crosstours we own that have the unserviceable cartridge filter inside the bell housing. The thinner fluid I believe has been a positive. Not one transmission issue with 144k miles logged using it.
This 6-speed in the 2017 Pilot has not had any mechanical adverse effects using MaxLife. I credit MaxLife with helping with this transmission's slipping issues. I didn't want to put OEM Honda DW-1 back in it after this fluid had obviously failed to protect it after 19k miles. So now I'm experimenting with other full synthetic fluids.
I can not recommend MaxLife for the Honda 6-speed transmission, although others are using it. But I certainly don't recommend OEM Honda DW-1 either, lol. I'm just an over paid oil change guy and an under paid mechanic. No one special. Learning from others, living by my own experiences.
Ya, don't like the price of Amsoil products.
 
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What was it that Nail Grease posted earlier and what was it that you checked on the bottle?
Ummm
Post #3 which I interpret as not synthetic...
Aisin, Idemitsu Type H Plus are aftermarket replacements for DW-1. My only wish is that they (and DW-1) were full synthetic.
And where on the bottle does it say synthetic? So again I interpret...
 
@Nail Grease How's that BA fluid doing two months later?
I mixed. Because when I drained out almost 4 quarts of 90% Full Synthetic Valvoline MaxLife, I also drained out more than half of my LubeGaurd (red bottle). Put in the almost 4 quarts of BA and feel like maybe I was better off with ML and the LG. I really can't say it was an improvement. My shifts are still firm.
My fluid is the cleanest I've ever seen since I've owned it with the installation of the Wix/Filltran 58953.
My family member with a 2014 Accord V6 put BA in his, with what was 100% Honda DW-1 and has no complaints.
 
Read the thread title; then add: vs. Valvoline Maxlife ATF!
 
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Aisin, Idemitsu Type H Plus are aftermarket replacements for DW-1. My only wish is that they (and DW-1) were full synthetic.
Took a quick look at the MSDS sheets for Honda DW1.

It's made by Idemitsu. Same guys who make the Amazon product.


What a coincidence....
 
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