2017 Honda Pilot Injectors replace at 33,341 miles. The Emissions light came one and the only thing my dealer said is that my Pilot falls under Service Bulletin Number 18-025. They did not tell me anything else and there is nothing else on the paperwork.

 

2017 honda touring AWD 60K miles, no injectors replaced no CEL lights.
i always use costco gas, rarely do i use anything else
i also every now and then push the vehicle to redline. it helps to open her up every now and then. i read people who baby the vehicle actually get the problem

 

2017 Honda Pilot Injectors replace at 33,341 miles. The Emissions light came one and the only thing my dealer said is that my Pilot falls under Service Bulletin Number 18-025. They did not tell me anything else and there is nothing else on the paperwork.


So, I don't baby my Pilot and I still got the "Emissions light"

How often do you push it to the redline? Every tank of gas?

 

2019 Pilot 6K miles only!Code P0326 (knock sensor) keep coming back!
Taking in to dealership on Monday 09.30. for evaluation
I’ll let you know what happened!

 

2016 Ex-L injectors replaced at 48,000 miles
P0403 code. Cylinders 4 and 5 running rich.

 

Emmissions light came on, hooked up a BlueDriver OBD2 bluetooth reader and app said it was specifically a certain oil pressure sensor.
Replaced oil pressure sensor and oring and error code went away.
I'm glad I did this myself instead of trusting the dealer.
If I get another emissions error, I'll run the OBD2 sensor again and see what the code is, if it's the fuel injectors, then I'll do them myself.
Not trusting dealers lately.

 

Just had fuel injectors replaced under extended warranty on 2017 Pilot Touring with 72,000 miles on it. The reason I took it to service was it was displaying rolling error codes of all electronic systems for the second time in 2 months. The first time I took it to service they just reset the electronics system. The second time, they said there is a service bulletin out and they replaced the injectors. Now last night when I tried to accelerate on the expressway, the car slowed and wouldn't accelerate. I'll be heading back to the dealer this week.

 

2011 Pilot w/120k miles. Original injectors. At the last service, out of the blue, our service rep. heartily recommended EFI cleaning service ($170±). We've had no Codes. Appears that it's a Honda directive. Hmmmmm! (FYI: we always get Top Tier gasoline, usually Costco.; we avoid the no-name cheapies.)

 

Hey!Your car doesn’t have the Earth Dream engine so you are not likely will have problems ever!I wish they stayed with something less fragile engine as the old ones!S

 

2016 Touring (eq. US Elite), had Emissions system problems” showed up in Spring (?) 2016, with like 20,000 km, or less. Dealer reset once and came back, code P0430, or something like that. Dealer replaced injectors and rails about two weeks later. Same type of gas used before and after, believe gas stations always claim top tier gas. Seems all is fine after. Not driven much lately. Just replaced four tires, with about 66,000 km, fearing arctic snow coming soon.

 

Had error codes read at roughly 39,000 miles. Warranty had expired and replacing injectors was recommended. Asked what one cost and was told they all had to be done. Called BS on a vehicle design that required 5 Good injectors to be trashed. Purchased a bottle of direct injector cleaner to run on the next tank of gas for $14.00 and haven’t had an issue since. Currently at 47,000 with no other codes or issues with injectors.

 

So what kind of direct injector cleaner did you buy? And how often do you treat the gas?

I really do not want to have to have my injectors replaced again, even though it is under warranty.

 

Dealer stated needed new fuel injectors on my 2016 EXL with 80,000 miles. Quoted $1750.00 for the repair. Decided to perform replacement with my capable husband at a cost of $375. for new injectors. All 6 injectors were black with carbon. Repair went well with the aid of a youtube video. Still having issues with the engine missing on acceleration. Any advice? Could it be transmission?

 

Order the BlueDriver OBD2 reader and see what engine codes its throwing?

 

Possible carbon build up on the intake valves!Replacing the injectors often just half of the fix!Direct Injected engines notorious of carbon build up on the intake valves so as on the injector heads!

 

Great video and worth your 19+ minutes.

 

This poll is ONLY for individuals that have had their fuel injectors replaced. I'm trying to determine if there is a link between VCM
operations, and also if quality of the gasoline could be contributing factors to the injector failures. Honda's position is its a
manufacturing particle contamination issues from its subcontractor causing these injectors to fail. I can not believe after 3 years they
still have not solved a manufacturing problem with 2019 models now failing. Its my opinion that something else is going on with these
Earth Dream direct injection engines. Could VCM operations be causing oil misting in the deactivated cylinders, which then contaminate
the injector surface which maybe collects carbon particle residue that then bakes onto the injector thus disrupting the spray pattern? I
know that's really grasping.

Please include a post with any additional information from your repair receipt. Such as: DTC codes, misfire in Bank 1 or Bank 2, misfire
in a particular cylinder.

Examples:
DTC
P0430 (front bank catalyst system efficiency below threshold [bank 2])
P030X (misfire) Where 'X" is the cylinder number
P219A (air-fuel ratio variation of cylinder [bank 1, rear bank])
P219B (air-fuel ratio variation of cylinder [bank 2, front bank])


I'm trying to determine if there is any action we can do to prevent the problem. Or is this just going to be a out of warranty money
maker for Honda?

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2016 EX-L Replaced at 90k miles Code was P219A vin fell within range on first TSB. Dealer performed good will service and only charged 20%. I’ve driven 30k mikes since -code P219A again.

 

Just happened to me. Most of the miles on my 2017 Pilot EX-L AWD have been interstate going to canine trials, really long drives. Last 3 weeks I have driven from ATL to Harrisburg, PA, back to ATL, to Wakefield, VA, back to ATL, and this past week to Lake Ozark, MO and back to ATL. For the first time ever I ran the gas down below 1/4 tank from TN to ATL. Cranked it up yesterday, 36,432 miles and the dreaded emissions code lit up, P0430. Took it to the dealer, was told highly likely fuel injectors. Oh, you are just out of warranty, too bad. I was like, no, I read up on the sh!t Honda direct engine issues and bought a warranty, $50 deductible and KMA. I find this ridiculous they haven't found a better solution than sticking it to the customer. IRL, have only run Top tier gas - Costco, Chevron, Shell and BP, and run a large bottle of Techron total system cleaner about every 3500 miles, yes I know how GDI works and limited to no affect on the valves, yet it should definitely keep the injectors clean combined with the Top tier detergents, etc. I question about running down the fuel to an 1/8th of a tank with ethanol, water contamination, etc? Anyhoo, made my warranty money back the hard way, but no one should buy one of these without and extended warranty, and I was more concerned about electronics, etc than this really happening. Is it underreported? I doubt it as the dealer knew exactly what it was out of the gate. I came out of a new 2014 mid-level Ford Flex with FWD, put 59k on it in 3 years, probably spent less than $350 dollars on maintenance, per the schedule, at the dealer, no comparison on operating costs compared to Honda. I love the AWD, it has come in handy in multiple scenarios, the Michelin LTX M/S tires that replaced the OEMs 7k miles ago have been excellent as well. YMMV.

 

Just had my injectors replaced under extended warranty. Truck was in the dealership 4 times in the last 3 months for the same issue. Dealer kept resetting the computer stating I use bad gas even though I told them otherwise. On my fourth trip to the dealer I brought every receipt for fuel since day 1 I took ownership of the new truck. I keep logs of KM's driven per day and the only place I get fuel is Shell and it's premium without Ethanol.

I had to help the service manger close his mouth when he looked over my records. They finally replaced O2 Sensors, Injectors, Cat converter and it seems better. My RPM's fluctuate like others however I believe that's related to the transmission fluid needing to be changed.

I have 73,000 KM on the truck which I bought brand new and I can't believe how frustrating it's been at the dealer. When I bought the extended warranty I was thinking I wasted money; but thankfully I'm covered to 120KM.....Thinking I need to pay to extended to 200KM!

 

the dealer experience in Canada is just horrible. People are running from Honda because of this. Diagnostic fee's for all warranty / blame the customer. It's infuriating. Glad you had the extended warranty and kept the gas receipts. I can't believe they balked and pushed back at you for what is a known problem with this engine in all models. Are you in GTA area ?

 

Help!!! I have had my 2016 EX and with the exact same.prob! Of course right after the warranty goes. It will be my 4th trip in 1 year as well on the same issue of "emission system problem " they replaced the entire set of injectors last january. It happened again less than 1 year! Tomorrow I go back only after 3 days ago I had it looked at. Yup... they just cleared via computer or whatever...
What to do??? I only use Costco Top Tier..

 

I'm in Newmarket so relatively close to the GTA. Yes my experience has been poor and I feel bad others at the counter when paying bills for diagnosis the dealer still can't fix the errors.

When I walk into the dealer pretty much all the service technician's call me by name. Either they have really good customer service or I've been a regular customer for all the wrong reasons!

 

I'm in Newmarket so relatively close to the GTA. Yes my experience has been poor and I feel bad others at the counter when paying bills for diagnosis the dealer still can't fix the errors.

When I walk into the dealer pretty much all the service technician's call me by name. Either they have really good customer service or I've been a regular customer for all the wrong reasons!

We are neighbours - The Stouffville dealership is owned by the same people.

 

I was at my dealer for service on my CR-V last week, and happened to ask if they were seeing fuel injector problems with the Pilots. The Service Adviser said they are seeing a lot of them, and that Honda is extending the warranty on fuel injectors to 80,000 miles.

Has anyone else heard this, or seen anything in writing confirming this?

Either way, I'm happy because I know my dealer will cover me at least until 80k miles now....

 

 

Got multiple warning lights and warning messages last week around 41.5 K. Dealer reset code, said it was cylinder misfires and asked to report back it the problem happened again. It did, this week. Took it back to the dealer and they said they are replacing the fuel injectors.

Apparently, they now have updated or upgraded fuel injectors from Honda and they should fix the problem.

Interesting that this problem happens around 41 or 42K for many folks here.

 

Bump..

 

Nov 2019 105000km P219a code came up on my 2016 Touring Pilot that I bought used with 78000km one year prior. I cleared the code used some injector cleaner, gas mileage increase still didn’t come down...9.6/100km upto 10.3-5...
Last week, accelerated onto the hwy engine light came on with instant loss of power...pulled over checked the code, P304, and 5 (mis-Fire).
Started car, all reset and continued on.
Went to the dealership today, told him the codes, car goes in Tuesday for the repair as mentioned in the TSB I told him about 18-025...he agreed.
He was looking to see when the TSB expires or how it expires, it didn’t state anything. When it states it relates to a manufacturer defect, I told him sounds like a warranty issue. I have extended warranty so I hope this repair fixes the problem and if not, I will update.


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Just curious, has anyone had actual driveability problems that drove replacing the injectors, or are you all just replacing injectors because the Check Engine (Emissions) light came on?

I'm wondering whether the engine control unit is just too sensitive. I have had Emissions light on (P0420) once with my 2017 Elite, I cleared it with my code reader and it hasn't come back.

 

Apologies in advance, as I haven't replaced fuel injectors yet. Honda dealer offered to replace injectors for $1400. Being out of warranty, knowing the parts cost $350, being a stubborn DIY'er, and being displeased by dealer uncertainty about how long new injectors would perform, I declined.

2017 Pilot EX-L 2WD.

I read these codes: P0430, P0304. I erased the codes, but they returned. Twice I used in-tank fuel injector cleaner (Red line 60103), codes and CEL went away for a while but returned. 87 octane with ethanol gasoline purchased from mix of places like Costco, Racetrack, Wawa, etc.

I did some research and just attempted to clean injectors myself by doing the following:
-Purchased a "C80 Gasoline Fuel Injector" tool from eBay for $53.05 (with shipping). Replaced odd male quick disconnect air fitting supplied with canister tool with standard fitting I use with my air compressor. Purchased a 16 ounce can of OTC 7000A (98% xylene) from Amazon for $13.84.
-Warmed up engine, shut down.
-Disconnected wiring connector at fuel pump, beneath rear driver's side bench seat. After removing the plastic trim and seat mounting hex bolts, I tilted the seat back and propped it up with wood to access the 3x Phillips screws securing the round access floor panel. (Side note: Removing the fuel pump fuse will prevent starting the vehicle. This is somewhat expected. I tried that first without success. I restored fuse and turned my attention to tank pump wiring.)
-Blocked rubber fuel return host at fire wall with hose pinch pliers.
-Disconnected fuel supply line at fire wall. Use eye protection and rags, fuel will spray.
-Connect supplied Honda adapter to canister line. Tightened with wrench.
-Connected canister tool to fuel supply line. Used small plastic fuel line connector.
-Filled canister tool with OTC cleaner. Hung canister from raised hood latch.
-Pressurized canister tool with shop air to 30 psi. (I assumed the downstream fuel pump on the engine will raise the fuel pressure at the rail and injectors to ~55 psi.)
-Opened canister tool line valve.
-Started car. Car ran fine. I didn't time it, but it idled about ~20 minutes until it stalled when OTC cleaner ran out.
-Depressurize canister.
-Restored all connections back. Removed pinch pliers.
-Turned car on, but not started, to pressurize fuel, checked fuel supply connection for leaks.
-Started normally. Lot's of warnings/errors afterwards, traction, towing, steering.
-Cleared codes with scan tool. (warnings/errors regarding traction, towing, steering and P0430, P0304 all cleared)
-Road test with several hard accels.
-Normal operation ongoing, awaiting return of CEL and codes.

I don't have any expectations for the OTC cleaner's ability to remove the fouling from the injector(s). The Bosch/OTC customer service rep said it's too new of a vehicle, and they don't have the application developed yet. Further, I haven't found anyone who has done this to compare notes with. SUR&R has a similar canister tool and their customer service rep was helpful and willing to discuss this application, but they recommend 50% gasoline and 50% Sea Foam instead of 100% OTC cleaner. I haven't tried Sea Foam before. I may have just wasted 100 bucks and a few hours, but I figured it was worth a try before committing to an entire day of replacing the injectors and screwing something up. I just want to share the experience. Let's see what happens...

 

Apologies in advance, as I haven't replaced fuel injectors yet. Honda dealer offered to replace injectors for $1400. Being out of warranty, knowing the parts cost $350, being a stubborn DIY'er, and being displeased by dealer uncertainty about how long new injectors would perform, I declined.

2017 Pilot EX-L 2WD.

I read these codes: P0430, P0304. I erased the codes, but they returned. Twice I used in-tank fuel injector cleaner (Red line 60103), codes and CEL went away for a while but returned. 87 octane with ethanol gasoline purchased from mix of places like Costco, Racetrack, Wawa, etc.

I did some research and just attempted to clean injectors myself by doing the following:
-Purchased a "C80 Gasoline Fuel Injector" tool from eBay for $53.05 (with shipping). Replaced odd male quick disconnect air fitting supplied with canister tool with standard fitting I use with my air compressor. Purchased a 16 ounce can of OTC 7000A (98% xylene) from Amazon for $13.84.
-Warmed up engine, shut down.
-Disconnected wiring connector at fuel pump, beneath rear driver's side bench seat. After removing the plastic trim and seat mounting hex bolts, I tilted the seat back and propped it up with wood to access the 3x Phillips screws securing the round access floor panel. (Side note: Removing the fuel pump fuse will prevent starting the vehicle. This is somewhat expected. I tried that first without success. I restored fuse and turned my attention to tank pump wiring.)
-Blocked rubber fuel return host at fire wall with hose pinch pliers.
-Disconnected fuel supply line at fire wall. Use eye protection and rags, fuel will spray.
-Connect supplied Honda adapter to canister line. Tightened with wrench.
-Connected canister tool to fuel supply line. Used small plastic fuel line connector.
-Filled canister tool with OTC cleaner. Hung canister from raised hood latch.
-Pressurized canister tool with shop air to 30 psi. (I assumed the downstream fuel pump on the engine will raise the fuel pressure at the rail and injectors to ~55 psi.)
-Opened canister tool line valve.
-Started car. Car ran fine. I didn't time it, but it idled about ~20 minutes until it stalled when OTC cleaner ran out.
-Depressurize canister.
-Restored all connections back. Removed pinch pliers.
-Turned car on, but not started, to pressurize fuel, checked fuel supply connection for leaks.
-Started normally. Lot's of warnings/errors afterwards, traction, towing, steering.
-Cleared codes with scan tool. (warnings/errors regarding traction, towing, steering and P0430, P0304 all cleared)
-Road test with several hard accels.
-Normal operation ongoing, awaiting return of CEL and codes.

I don't have any expectations for the OTC cleaner's ability to remove the fouling from the injector(s). The Bosch/OTC customer service rep said it's too new of a vehicle, and they don't have the application developed yet. Further, I haven't found anyone who has done this to compare notes with. SUR&R has a similar canister tool and their customer service rep was helpful and willing to discuss this application, but they recommend 50% gasoline and 50% Sea Foam instead of 100% OTC cleaner. I haven't tried Sea Foam before. I may have just wasted 100 bucks and a few hours, but I figured it was worth a try before committing to an entire day of replacing the injectors and screwing something up. I just want to share the experience. Let's see what happens...

That didn’t work. Tried the same experiment with one pint OTC and a pint of Seafoam mixed 50/50 with gas. That didn’t work either. Just replaced the injectors and fuel line and took it for test drive. The most fouled appeared to be position 1 (closest to passenger side, if I understand the positions correctly). Crud atop the valves. Intake manifold seems to direct oil toward position one. I ordered oil catch can and s-vcm.

 

For those of you who are capable DIY'ers here are some links to videos that show you how to replace the injectors. It really doesn't look too difficult. Definitely worth it to save over $1,000. I only have 11,500 on my Pilot, so I haven't had the issue. Just wanted to help y'all out.

 

I know this an old poll, but there is no way I'd leave VCM active on my 2017.
And yes, your gasoline matters. Use only Top Tier 87 octane. Higher octane fuel than 87 does not burn completly and clogs your catalytic converters.

 

I sold my 2016 Pilot EX AWD after 4 years(?). I could not handle the problem anymore. Having to go back and forth to the dealer to get it solved. The dealer finally decided to replace all the injectors that would have cost me over 1000$ I enjoyed my Pilot but not like how others adooooore the car. I might come back to Honda someday. But for now, bye bye.

 

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