- According to Tirerack reviews, both should be quieter than factory Alenzas. But I really don't want to be bummed out if they end up being louder than the non-Trailsport tires.
- Funny enough, both are also cheaper than buying the same factory Alenzas again. Both are similar in price.
- So, Defender 2 or Scorpion AS Plus3?
Anyone use Michelin Defender 2 or Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus3 on their Pilot Elite?
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See my post above in regards to the WeatherReady 2.
ooof, that doesn't sound good either! Okay, cross those off the list Hmmm. Good news is I only have 8000 miles so it will be a (long) while until I need to replace the OEM Bridgestones
Not on a Pilot, but on a 2020 Passport Touring. Just put on Defender 2's and are quite happy with them. It must be noted that part of my satisfaction with this tire is the ride. DISCLAIMER: With that said, I also went from 20" rims to 18" Ridgeline HDP wheels, for the added sidewall/ride comfort.
My Cross Climates did 3-5” of snow in the mountains with ease. My only problems were the vehicles in front of me, not making it up hills. Only time my tires lost traction was when I wanted to have fun. Ratings are over rated! 😝
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Hmm so in theory I can sell my Elite 20" wheels & rims, and buy 18" wheels for better comfort and not pay that much more....
I wonder if it's worth it. The Elite wheels are nice and fits the trim (instead of sporty TS)... sometimes they're boring.
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Tirerack has it vice versa. I just want competent quiet tires.
These look quite nice (IMO) on a metallic steel gray vehicle.
They are also available in a bronze color. The 10mm offset is not noticeable and the ride is smoother, due to the extra sidewall.
This is how they look on a Sliver Luna Passport:
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Try the Toyo Open Country Q/T.
Toyo has a 500-mile/45-day trial offer.
Within that period, you can return the tires for a refund if they prove to be unsatisfactory.
Hold on to your old tires in case they need to be reinstalled.
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There is actually some very legitimate truth to this. Even though they are good enough to be 3PMSF, not all tire manufacturers care enough to give the rating. And there are plenty of tires that are 3PMSF rated that are still hot garbage in the slick/cold.
It's a really mediocre standard that we put far too much weight into
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Weighing in, but from prior experience on 08 MDX…I LOVE my Defender 2s….hoping they work well on the Pilot platform…
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Defender 2s on our 2015 Odyssey still have excellent tread depth at 40,000 miles, but the five years of heat and cold and potholes in MI have aged the tire to needing replacement. Defender 2 or Pirelli AS?
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I had Michelins on my 2018 BMW 740i Xdrive when I bought it used, but Pirellis were a great bargain. They ride well, but on grooved freeway pavement, they squirm! So now - our Odyssey (ok, not a Pilot - it's the big sister!) needs tires. As stated above, it has had Defender 2s on it for 5 years. Excellent ride for 5 years. Seasons dry out any tire. Pirellis are $40 less per tire! Defenders anyway? Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 vs Michelin Defender 2
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