[weiss27md]

I think the Wix filter won overall in that test. He makes some really good comparison videos. I've been buying Wix oil and air filters for many years now. Back in the day ~20 years ago it was all about Fram but there is better out there now. Just like at the same time Optima was the best battery but not anymore. Their quality has actually gone downhill. I get the AGM Autozone brand batteries now.

 

[RAL]

Not sure what the original poster is accomplishing. The stock intake on the pilot is well designed. Your set up is allowing drawing hot, dirty air into the motor.

 

[cintocrunch]

Not sure what the original poster is accomplishing. The stock intake on the pilot is well designed. Your set up is allowing drawing hot, dirty air into the motor. And you still have the original intake so it looks half baked. Not to sound harsh, but it is just that once any car hits a certain mileage, and gen 2 pilots are generally at that point in their lifecycle, money is better spent on repairs and maintenance that keep the car’s stock reliability and performance. Oversized “rims”, k&n air filters and other “cold air” intakes (in quotes because most of them are not as well designed as the factory intakes), tint, fake chrome, “upgraded” lights, are all generally a waste of money or a scam. Spend your money keeping the car reliable and clean at this age. I love it when I see a late model car with all that crap and then I see the owner has mounted a set of four Ling Lang tires or some other crappy off brand, to take one example. He would enjoy the car more with a set of first line tires rather than that crap. As a general matter, it is very difficult to meaningfully improve performance on a car without understanding the trade offs involved (e.g., suspension set up) and since we are talking about family haulers like Pilots why there is interest in that is beyond me. This way I can get to 60mph maybe .1 quicker while hauling the family to the beach with the bike rack in tow. I enjoy performance as much as the next guy and run amateur races with a group of friends but from having done that a while I can tell you much of the upgrades pushed by the aftermarket is a bunch of crap.

On the other hand the gen 2s are finally getting cheap enough that people who can afford them and want to do some mods can now do that. We all agree that there is little to no performance gain, but the OP likes the way it looks and sounds.

Let's encourage creativity and modifications instead of finger wagging at it, then we can learn more about these vehicles and how they perform with different modifications and in different situations.

Also, where are you racing in MD? I'm in Harford County, VIR, Englishtown and the WV tracks are all hours away...

 

[xGS]

Let's encourage creativity and modifications instead of finger wagging at it, then we can learn more about these vehicles and how they perform with different modifications and in different situations.

Only if the descriptions of those mods are accompanied by valid before and after test data showing a significant improvement - not some anecdotal evidence based on "butt dyno" data.

 

[cintocrunch]

Only if the descriptions of those mods are accompanied by valid before and after test data showing a significant improvement - not some anecdotal evidence based on "butt dyno" data.

I personally wouldn't do the mod for the reasons you mention but I like seeing others do it. Let's give the guy or gal some credit, they got creative and made something work and are hopefully enjoying it. I care that people are modifying and enjoying cars, not so much how they do it. Doesn't need to be my taste, I support enthusiasts.

 

[aggrex]

Life would be boring if we all drove the exact same Pilot. Accessories make the Pilot his or her own. Some like it quiet and some like it less quiet. Depending upon what it is sometimes I like it hot, spicy and noisy. If we don’t experiment a little we won’t know what we’re missing.

 

[xGS]

I personally wouldn't do the mod for the reasons you mention but I like seeing others do it. Let's give the guy or gal some credit, they got creative and made something work and are hopefully enjoying it. I care that people are modifying and enjoying cars, not so much how they do it. Doesn't need to be my taste, I support enthusiasts.

The more I see of people making such "improvements" to their Pilots, the less I'd ever want to buy a pre-owned vehicle.

 

[cintocrunch]

The more I see of people making such "improvements" to their Pilots, the less I'd ever want to buy a pre-owned vehicle.

I don't buy vehicles that have been previously modified, it's a personal policy.

But back in the day I did some mods that I'm not proud of at this point. Some for looks, some for noise, some just to do a mod. I try to be much more tasteful and restrained at this point.

 

[briantii]

Life would be boring if we all drove the exact same Pilot.

Lets just be honest - driving a Pilot is the definition of boring. Doesn’t mean I hate ours, but it’s very much an A to B machine.

I like that the OP is getting some enjoyment from modifying their Pilot. I also appreciate the creativity- I honestly would never think to do anything other than the vcm to ours. I’m not a k&n fan due to poor filtration performance.

 

[aggrex]

Lets just be honest - driving a Pilot is the definition of boring. Doesn’t mean I hate ours, but it’s very much an A to B machine.

I like that the OP is getting some enjoyment from modifying their Pilot. I also appreciate the creativity- I honestly would never think to do anything other than the vcm to ours. I’m not a k&n fan due to poor filtration performance.

Not everyone pimps their Pilot but some are done pretty nice. Definitely not a fan of k&n filters but open to other mod ideas. If you haven’t seen this thread some peeps no longer have A to B Pilots.

Pilot Pimpin' - Pimp My Ride - Pimp My Pilot

www.piloteers.org

 

[MZX]

Wow. Very informative. I replaced the element with a K&N and get more HP and average 22-24 mpg in mixed driving.

 

[Tahoefever]

Wow. Very informative. I replaced the element with a K&N and get more HP and average 22-24 mpg in mixed driving.

They have a pipe that's made for the Element..nothing to compare here ..there's Nothing out there for a Pilot series without a heavy modification. If there was a kit that we could install I may even consider it myself ..

 

[aggrex]

They have a pipe that's made for the Element..nothing to compare here ..there's Nothing out there for a Pilot series without a heavy modification. If there was a kit that we could install I may even consider it myself ..

@MZX might be referring to an air filter element rather than the Honda Element

 

[Tahoefever]

@MZX might be referring to an air filter element rather than the Honda Element

very true .. i'll stand down

 

[MZX]

LOL...Yes the air filter element. Thank you for clarifying for me @aggrex. We got some peeps on here that have quite the sense of humor...

 

[Daltongang]

Only if the descriptions of those mods are accompanied by valid before and after test data showing a significant improvement - not some anecdotal evidence based on "butt dyno" data.

I suppose your going to tell me that the magic gas magnets that I bought and put around my fuel line don't line up the gas molecules to give me better milage.

 

[cintocrunch]

I suppose your going to tell me that the magic gas magnets that I bought and put around my fuel line don't line up the gas molecules to give me better milage.

That depends, in some cases you need to buy a second set and install them reversed... it depends on whether the gas tank is a polarized model or not...

 

[xGS]

I suppose your going to tell me that the magic gas magnets that I bought and put around my fuel line don't line up the gas molecules to give me better milage.

They only work in synergy with one of these widgets stuffed up the air intake tube:

 

[Daltongang]

They only work in synergy with one of these widgets stuffed up the air intake tube:

Ahh yes, I had forgotten about the tornado effect that went with the molecular restructuring of the fuel. 🤣

 

[UBCNME]

I too used the Cold air intake for the 2016 Pilot. I used the HPS cold air intake for the 2016 Pilot. Mines is a 2014 EX The heat shield bracket I extended a bracket and its pretty much bolt on for the 2nd Gen.