[Hogan773]

"Not everyone wants to carry a battery under their kids' butts."

But 18 gallons of class 1 flammable liquid is just fine.

As long as the gasoline is not emitting EMV waves

 

[Hogan773]

Statistics do show that hybrid cars are more likely to catch fire compared to gas or EV, there the EV is the least likely. This is mostly because hybrid has both flammable liquid and combustion engine and the battery. Fire risks of hybrid, EV and ICE cars - Pinfa
And not all hybrids are created equal. I’ve seen at least 2 Hyundai Kona plugin hybrids catching fire while charging in the parking lot of my work place. I’ve never seen any Toyota or Honda hybrid catching fire though.

But if you're saying a plug in hybrid catches fire while charging, that would be the same as a pure EV. The ICE engine is not running while the hybrid is sitting at a charger station with plug in charging

 

[xiewei1989]

Statistics do show that hybrid cars are more likely to catch fire compared to gas or EV, there the EV is the least likely. This is mostly because hybrid has both flammable liquid and combustion engine and the battery. Fire risks of hybrid, EV and ICE cars - Pinfa
And not all hybrids are created equal. I’ve seen at least 2 Hyundai Kona plugin hybrids catching fire while charging in the parking lot of my work place. I’ve never seen any Toyota or Honda hybrid catching fire though.

But if you're saying a plug in hybrid catches fire while charging, that would be the same as a pure EV. The ICE engine is not running while the hybrid is sitting at a charger station with plug in charging

That is one mode of failure that could catch fire. I’ve also seen various occasions where old gas car ( I mean really old like 20-30 years old) catch fire on the side of the road. Having two systems just mean you have a higher probability. But if you have a robust gas engine and well designed motors/battery system, you may still end up safer than a flawed designed pure gas engine or EV.
In my opinion, a well maintained car from a reputable manufacturer should have no problem with fire hazard otherwise the manufacturer would be sued to bankruptcy.

 

[Ledebuhr1]

Well its 10-1 and still no 2026 Pilot. All the other Honda products have been released for 2026. Anyone have access to someone with-in Honda that could give us the scoop on the delay?

 

[xiewei1989]

Well its 10-1 and still no 2026 Pilot. All the other Honda products have been released for 2026. Anyone have access to someone with-in Honda that could give us the scoop on the delay?

I think it is close. Honda Canada released the spec of the 2026 Pilot accidentally a few weeks ago and took it down afterwards. The only change shown in the spec was the 12.3 inch touchscreen with Google build-in. Also the Canadian trailsport got the 360 camera.

 

[Ldubs]

Statistics do show that hybrid cars are more likely to catch fire compared to gas or EV, there the EV is the least likely. This is mostly because hybrid has both flammable liquid and combustion engine and the battery. Fire risks of hybrid, EV and ICE cars - Pinfa
And not all hybrids are created equal. I’ve seen at least 2 Hyundai Kona plugin hybrids catching fire while charging in the parking lot of my work place. I’ve never seen any Toyota or Honda hybrid catching fire though.

I tend to agree. Mine was kind of tongue-in-cheek (I laugh at my own jokes).

 

[Alex1_]

"Not everyone wants to carry a battery under their kids' butts."

But 18 gallons of class 1 flammable liquid is just fine.

Gasoline is a Class 3 flammable liquid, btw.
Did you know that it is not the gasoline itself that burns, but its vapors?
100 years of history shows that gasoline is still the safest, at least unless you're driving a Korean gasoline car )))

 

[Alex1_]

In the case of my Accord, I love the Hybrid. Totally better driving feel ("electric smooth") and since they only offer hybrid on the middle and upper trims, you aren't paying an explicit premium JUST for the hybrid drivetrain. I do understand that if they came out with a Pilot Elite in gas engine and another Elite with Hybrid, and it cost $5000 more to add the hybrid and that is all that was different, that it might be harder for me to grab it based just on fuel savings alone

I test-drove a hybrid Accord, and I agree with you. It's a pleasure to drive, but compared to the turbocharged version and the CVT, I'd choose the latter. I had a 2017 CRV, then upgraded to a 3.5-liter V6 with a 10-speed transmission, and I'll tell you my personal opinion. I liked the CRV better.

 

[Alex1_]

I don’t think Honda is any better in terms reliability compared to Acura. You are probably just unlucky and got a lemon?
For creaking/ticking noise, I think it is a widespread problem for Honda/Acura? Both of my 18 Accord and 24 Pilot got some random noises which can be annoying but I never cared to ask the dealer to fix.

I think there's a slight difference. Acura tries to use premium materials, but this results in different materials with different expansion coefficients coming into contact with each other. Honda has less experience in luxury than luxury brand manufacturers.

Mine wasn't a Lemon. It was simply made in 2021, which is basically the start of production for this model. It was just released, and a bunch of mistakes were made. It would seem like it wouldn't be an update to a new phone firmware version when it's just came out, but I see the results are pretty close. ))) I read reviews of the same Grand Highlander; when it first came out, it was exactly the same. Lots of one-star reviews. From this story, I conclude that you shouldn't buy a car earlier than two years after the first sale. The manufacturer is working on its mistakes, and that takes time. The dealership gave me a loaner car for a couple of days, a new 2026 MDX, and guess what, almost no squeaks left, the suspension works differently, and so does the engine.

 

[Alex1_]

I think like most of these things, tin foil is the answer. Wear a full body suit made of tin foil while driving or riding in your hybrid vehicle. This will protect you from the EMV that is pouring out of your electric drive motor and also has a side benefit of blocking any mind control radio waves that might be coming from the deep state

Wi-Fi emits radiation, too. Wireless phone charging emits almost as much as a microwave. Yes, the radiation in an electric car is twice as high as in a gasoline-powered one, but it's still tens of times lower than the maximum permissible limits. The problem is that there's a fierce debate in scientific circles about which figures are considered the maximum permissible: the existing ones or 10 times lower. It's okay to laugh not at the opposing opinion, but also at the lack of knowledge, right? 🤣

 

[Ldubs]

Gasoline is a Class 3 flammable liquid, btw.
Did you know that it is not the gasoline itself that burns, but its vapors?
100 years of history shows that gasoline is still the safest, at least unless you're driving a Korean gasoline car )))

Unless the system has changed since I retired, it is NFPA class 1. Low flash point.

I prefer the flux capacitor.

 

[Alex1_]

Unless the system has changed since I retired, it is NFPA class 1. Low flash point.

I prefer the flux capacitor.

Yeah, good point — you’re right.
If it’s in the vehicle’s fuel tank, it’s not really “transporting” a hazardous material, so DOT doesn’t treat it as a Class 3 load.
NFPA still calls gasoline a Class IB flammable liquid, but that’s more about storage and fire codes, not what’s sitting in your tank.
And hey, if you’ve got a flux capacitor, you’re exempt from NFPA and DOT anyway 😄

 

[Ldubs]

Yeah, good point — you’re right.
If it’s in the vehicle’s fuel tank, it’s not really “transporting” a hazardous material, so DOT doesn’t treat it as a Class 3 load.
NFPA still calls gasoline a Class IB flammable liquid, but that’s more about storage and fire codes, not what’s sitting in your tank.
And hey, if you’ve got a flux capacitor, you’re exempt from NFPA and DOT anyway 😄

Thanks. See post #66. It was a tongue-in-cheek comment.