Title pretty much says it all, why did you buy your 2012 (or 2013) Pilot over comparable SUVs?
Just curious...
Just curious...
Why did you buy your 2012 (or 2013) Pilot over comparable SUVs?
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Because we absolutely loved our 2009. Considered something American like the ford or dodge but the wife wasn't open to anything else.
I feel the pilot is as much an American car as is the dodge.
I feel the pilot is as much an American car as is the dodge.
Why Pilot?
Subaru Outback- space, ride, and bang for the buck
Jeep Grand Cherokee- reliability, size, $, cost of upgrades
Toyota Highlander- space, style, $ when equally equipped
Ford Explorer- reliability, cost
Chevy Traverse- size, style, cost when equally equipped
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited - safety, ride, comfort, space
I bought a Pilot because it was the first vehicle that hit every mark on our list of requirements, we thoroughly enjoyed driving it, every single person i spoke to who had ever owned one loved their's.
Our List of requirements:
Safe.
Reliable.
Comfortable.
High Resale Value.
Large enough for an active family.
A Joy to drive and ride in.
Affordable.
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7.000 miles so far and enjoying every one of them.
Subaru Outback- space, ride, and bang for the buck
Jeep Grand Cherokee- reliability, size, $, cost of upgrades
Toyota Highlander- space, style, $ when equally equipped
Ford Explorer- reliability, cost
Chevy Traverse- size, style, cost when equally equipped
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited - safety, ride, comfort, space
I bought a Pilot because it was the first vehicle that hit every mark on our list of requirements, we thoroughly enjoyed driving it, every single person i spoke to who had ever owned one loved their's.
Our List of requirements:
Safe.
Reliable.
Comfortable.
High Resale Value.
Large enough for an active family.
A Joy to drive and ride in.
Affordable.
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7.000 miles so far and enjoying every one of them.
I love to read these comparisons, this is my first post on this forum as a new Pilot EX-L w/navi is high on my list of a replacement vehicle for our '09 VW Routan SEL with a 4.0L V6. For those who don't remember it, my user name is in reference to the old Isuzu Trooper II (owned an '84 and '86) which was quite similar to the old Toyota FJ Cruiser (not the newer plush one, the old bare bones with 2 doors and rubber mats, only available with a long throw stick), both were tall boxy and great in snow, real work horses but without many creature comforts and not very kid friendly.
We traded the '86 for a '90 Dodge Grand Caravan and then another DGC in '97 and lastly with a cash for clunkers deal for this '09 VW (had marginally better mileage and qualified --- huge discount off the VW which should have been my first clue). In any case, we needed the extra space of a minivan with two kids in college at the time, loved the higher seat height, decent hwy mileage and the Routan actually does have a decent on road presence but am just really concerned over its longer term reliability as VW has decided to drop it (another orphaned nameplate) beyond the 2012 model year.
So have been looking but probably at a few others not mentioned here besides the Pilot which I plan to test drive soon --- namely, a Ford C-Max,, a BMW X3 with the 2.8L, the '13 Acura RDX, an Audi A4 Avant or Allroad or possibly wait for 2014 Toyota RAV4 (complete redesign).
Details so far -- Ford C-Max is small on the outside but fairly big on room, gets 47 MPG on regular gas! ; BMW X3, much more luxurious and larger than previous years, that start/stop was a bit annoying at stop lights (you could shut it off), didn't like the throttle response but the fit/finish and leather, etc. was top shelf; other downsides were the price with options I wanted, requires premium gas and while the first 4 years of maintenance are covered, Bimmers are expensive after that; the new RDX, requires premium, did not have the premium feel of the BMW but was decent; both Audi's are just as nice as the BMW and probably have the best heated seats in the business, just OK space but higher ride height of the Allroad is good as well and lastly, have only seen a few spy photos of the newer RAV4 but the current one is too utilitarian for my taste but it's the only one in this group to offer a 3rd row seat --- it's a nice to have but would be kept folded as it is now in my Routan unless needed (at least a few times of the year for trips with my own staff, some airport pickups, etc. but not absolute, could rent in a pinch I suppose).
I think the Pilot offers a great value but want to see the ride quality, road in an '08 awhile back and it was decent but a little bumpy as a passenger so we'll see ...
EDIT: well, I need to add another to the list, decided that I really don't need the 3rd row as long as it has a rear seat that will comfortably seat three adults and the VW Touareg fits the bill; took a '13 Touareg TDI Sport out for a test drive and came away quite impressed .. also drove a Toyota Venza as I had Carmax appraise my Routan but the Honda dealer was swamped so a Pilot test drive will need to wait a bit. At least I have one finalist (the Touareg -- either a VR6 or TDI) and have a decent ballpark on my trade-in. I think I'm going to pass on the C-Max, its just a bit too small as well as the Venza, decent fit and finish but mushy brakes and lots of road noise from the stock 20" tires.
LAST EDIT: thought I would close this off in case anyone goes back through; drove a few more competing models as well as took another look at a Pilot; was turned off by the materials fit and finish and as mentioned earlier didn't really need the 3rd row seat so ended up with a '13 VW Touareg VR6 (gas) with navigation/backup camera. Got a better trade-in than a Carmax appraisal for my Routan as well as a super out-the-door price (this thing lists for over $46K) as well as the driving dynamics, solid almost 'built from a single billet' build quality and displays, features, etc. As we typically only drive this particular type car about 10K per year, it will be fully covered under VW free maintenance and will see what we do afterwards ... assume be much better than the '09 Routan its replacing so we'll see.
We traded the '86 for a '90 Dodge Grand Caravan and then another DGC in '97 and lastly with a cash for clunkers deal for this '09 VW (had marginally better mileage and qualified --- huge discount off the VW which should have been my first clue). In any case, we needed the extra space of a minivan with two kids in college at the time, loved the higher seat height, decent hwy mileage and the Routan actually does have a decent on road presence but am just really concerned over its longer term reliability as VW has decided to drop it (another orphaned nameplate) beyond the 2012 model year.
So have been looking but probably at a few others not mentioned here besides the Pilot which I plan to test drive soon --- namely, a Ford C-Max,, a BMW X3 with the 2.8L, the '13 Acura RDX, an Audi A4 Avant or Allroad or possibly wait for 2014 Toyota RAV4 (complete redesign).
Details so far -- Ford C-Max is small on the outside but fairly big on room, gets 47 MPG on regular gas! ; BMW X3, much more luxurious and larger than previous years, that start/stop was a bit annoying at stop lights (you could shut it off), didn't like the throttle response but the fit/finish and leather, etc. was top shelf; other downsides were the price with options I wanted, requires premium gas and while the first 4 years of maintenance are covered, Bimmers are expensive after that; the new RDX, requires premium, did not have the premium feel of the BMW but was decent; both Audi's are just as nice as the BMW and probably have the best heated seats in the business, just OK space but higher ride height of the Allroad is good as well and lastly, have only seen a few spy photos of the newer RAV4 but the current one is too utilitarian for my taste but it's the only one in this group to offer a 3rd row seat --- it's a nice to have but would be kept folded as it is now in my Routan unless needed (at least a few times of the year for trips with my own staff, some airport pickups, etc. but not absolute, could rent in a pinch I suppose).
I think the Pilot offers a great value but want to see the ride quality, road in an '08 awhile back and it was decent but a little bumpy as a passenger so we'll see ...
EDIT: well, I need to add another to the list, decided that I really don't need the 3rd row as long as it has a rear seat that will comfortably seat three adults and the VW Touareg fits the bill; took a '13 Touareg TDI Sport out for a test drive and came away quite impressed .. also drove a Toyota Venza as I had Carmax appraise my Routan but the Honda dealer was swamped so a Pilot test drive will need to wait a bit. At least I have one finalist (the Touareg -- either a VR6 or TDI) and have a decent ballpark on my trade-in. I think I'm going to pass on the C-Max, its just a bit too small as well as the Venza, decent fit and finish but mushy brakes and lots of road noise from the stock 20" tires.
LAST EDIT: thought I would close this off in case anyone goes back through; drove a few more competing models as well as took another look at a Pilot; was turned off by the materials fit and finish and as mentioned earlier didn't really need the 3rd row seat so ended up with a '13 VW Touareg VR6 (gas) with navigation/backup camera. Got a better trade-in than a Carmax appraisal for my Routan as well as a super out-the-door price (this thing lists for over $46K) as well as the driving dynamics, solid almost 'built from a single billet' build quality and displays, features, etc. As we typically only drive this particular type car about 10K per year, it will be fully covered under VW free maintenance and will see what we do afterwards ... assume be much better than the '09 Routan its replacing so we'll see.
I didn't even attempt American cars...sorry. I got burned when I bought a 2010 Chevy Equinox. After 3 months, this "ticking" sounds started and the dealers said it's part of the fuel-injection technology and there's nothing they can about it. I went through 3 dealers and they said the same thing. Now, there's a lot vehicles out there with Fuel Injection and they don't have a ticking sound. The sound got really anoying and I traded it off for a Nissan Maxima after 4 months! After 3 years, I still Love my Maxima.
I looked at the 2012 Mazda CX-9. Not too crazy about it. The interior looks very outdated. Incentives are great but resale values are bad. Blind spot is horrible. It's a 7-seater.
I looked at 2013 Explorer. Didn't like the sales guy...bored me to death while at the same time, I felt like he was not that interested in us. Rides like a car. Price is much more than pilot. Also a 7-seater.
I drove the 2012 and 2013 Pilot and really liked the feel. The resale value is best in class. It felt like a truck.
The vehicle is really for my wife. She drove a 2005 Accord EXL Nav and it served us well. We weren't even sure if we should trade the car but we needed space for my lugging my two kids and their friends. Good social life for my kids
She really like the pilot too. We hated the Mazda sliding rail on the floor and could really catch a lot of crap. We have 2 young kids so it wont take long before the rails get really dirty and affect the sliding of chairs. Plus my wife wasn't too crazy about the "strings" you pull on the third row seat to bring them down.
She like the Explorer but hated the "strings" similar to CX-9. It just didn't right for her. Maybe the salesguy had something to do with it too.
But...she loved the Pilot. Drove like it's got power, no strings in the back to pull, no exposed rails on the floor for sliding of seats, and a bonus of one extra seat...an 8-seater.
For the price, dependability, resale, comfort, features and an extra seat ...why get anything else?
So we pulled the trigger on a white 2012 EX-L! She's happy and kids are happy. LOL
I looked at the 2012 Mazda CX-9. Not too crazy about it. The interior looks very outdated. Incentives are great but resale values are bad. Blind spot is horrible. It's a 7-seater.
I looked at 2013 Explorer. Didn't like the sales guy...bored me to death while at the same time, I felt like he was not that interested in us. Rides like a car. Price is much more than pilot. Also a 7-seater.
I drove the 2012 and 2013 Pilot and really liked the feel. The resale value is best in class. It felt like a truck.
The vehicle is really for my wife. She drove a 2005 Accord EXL Nav and it served us well. We weren't even sure if we should trade the car but we needed space for my lugging my two kids and their friends. Good social life for my kids
She really like the pilot too. We hated the Mazda sliding rail on the floor and could really catch a lot of crap. We have 2 young kids so it wont take long before the rails get really dirty and affect the sliding of chairs. Plus my wife wasn't too crazy about the "strings" you pull on the third row seat to bring them down.
She like the Explorer but hated the "strings" similar to CX-9. It just didn't right for her. Maybe the salesguy had something to do with it too.
But...she loved the Pilot. Drove like it's got power, no strings in the back to pull, no exposed rails on the floor for sliding of seats, and a bonus of one extra seat...an 8-seater.
For the price, dependability, resale, comfort, features and an extra seat ...why get anything else?
So we pulled the trigger on a white 2012 EX-L! She's happy and kids are happy. LOL
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We have driven Hondas since '88 and have owned six counting our '12 Pilot. We drove an Explorer and were underwhelmed, it was more of a token test drive. We left there and went across the street and bought a Pilot. Our personal experience with Hondas was a major factor, the EX we drove was decisive, and keeping the same dealer was a pleasant bonus.
We liked the Town & Country but had serious reservations about the long term reliability. We did a lot of online research but staying with Honda was almost a foregone conclusion.
We have no regrets, except the damned dark tint on the rear glass and not having an in-dash rear cam on the EX.
We liked the Town & Country but had serious reservations about the long term reliability. We did a lot of online research but staying with Honda was almost a foregone conclusion.
We have no regrets, except the damned dark tint on the rear glass and not having an in-dash rear cam on the EX.
I too looked at several GM ,Toyota, etc..vehicles. I drove a Land Rover and when my wife and I went to a Honda dealer and he put us into a Honda EX-L it was love at first sight. Checked parts prices, and former owners, test drove and I can honestly say the Pilot was a very good choice. Said good bye to the Land Rover...
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I was driving a 2WD Jeep Patriot. We kept running out of room whether camping with the dog, or going to the beach for the weekend with another couple (my parents). In the winter, we like to ski fairly often in the App Mountains and the 2WD aspect was limiting.
The answer? 4WD and size. I started my research online within the vehicles class.
I like the Grand Cherokee a lot, but don't trust the reliability at this point. The CX-7 (or is it the CX-9?) was too road oriented. I've only heard bad things on the Explorer. Ruled out others for various reasons.
Weighing reliability heavily, that effectively left me with the Highlander, 4Runner and Pilot, which are the three I visited in person.
I wanted to like the 4Runner the most, but I thought it drove too truck like (which it is) and the back seat was uncomfortable like my Patriot's. Planning the first new member of our family, this is important.
The Highlander arguably drove the best of the bunch, but I thought the cargo capacity was lacking and I am not at all a fan of the styling. I think this was my wife's favorite.
The Pilot drove really nice and has cargo capacity for days. I really like the bold styling. VTM-4 lock mode was a bonus to me too, figuring it could help get me out of sticky situations where the Highlander may fail. The built in hitch receiver was plus over the Highlander too. Oh yea, the backup camera with guidelines is money too!
The answer? 4WD and size. I started my research online within the vehicles class.
I like the Grand Cherokee a lot, but don't trust the reliability at this point. The CX-7 (or is it the CX-9?) was too road oriented. I've only heard bad things on the Explorer. Ruled out others for various reasons.
Weighing reliability heavily, that effectively left me with the Highlander, 4Runner and Pilot, which are the three I visited in person.
I wanted to like the 4Runner the most, but I thought it drove too truck like (which it is) and the back seat was uncomfortable like my Patriot's. Planning the first new member of our family, this is important.
The Highlander arguably drove the best of the bunch, but I thought the cargo capacity was lacking and I am not at all a fan of the styling. I think this was my wife's favorite.
The Pilot drove really nice and has cargo capacity for days. I really like the bold styling. VTM-4 lock mode was a bonus to me too, figuring it could help get me out of sticky situations where the Highlander may fail. The built in hitch receiver was plus over the Highlander too. Oh yea, the backup camera with guidelines is money too!
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I needed a large 8 passenger suv with reasonable gas mileage. I originally had a fully loaded 2008 GMC Acadia AWD. I loved the room and some of the convenience features such as the great backup camera (which automatically superimposed caution symbols on things too close), remote start with automatic heat (& heated seats) or A/C depending on the outside temp, easy access folding 2nd row, power folding mirrors, heads-up display that worked with the navigation where a turn arrow and distance to it is counted down by a horizontal bar graph and heated washer fluid (until a recall for a fire hazard removed the enite system completely with no replacement & a $100 reimbursement offered). However, the 6-speed transmission which hardly ever downshifted when you really needed it was very sloppy and soft. And with the heftly curb weight, it took a lot of throttle to get it moving from a dead stop so city mileage really sucked.
I bought the Acadia new and here are the problems I had with it and all the times I had to take it back to the dealer to fix them:
12/2007- Bought brand new with only 24 miles
5,142 miles- right turn signal not working- multifunction switch replaced, "water in passenger cabin"- sunroof leaking (supposedly both drain hoses kinked), both upper front strut mount bearings squeaking and replaced, brake pedal squaking (fixed by filling with new fluid)
7,252 miles- still have "water in passenger cabin"- sunroof leaking (holes sealed under 2nd row stationary sunroof and drain hose extensions added), TSB for flat spot/hesitation @ 40mph: reprogram transmission control module.
8,000 miles- wiper arm recall, both headlamp assemblies fogged and holding moisture- parts ordered
8,121 miles- replaced both headlamps.
-----owned for 1 Year----
9,232 miles- steering wheel clunking- replaced steering wheel intermediate shaft.
12,498 miles- thumping noise when turning- replaced steering rack.
19,820 miles- still have "water in passenger cabin"- water intrusion was actually from front cowl below windshield and at "right roof ditch", fixed by reasealing both areas. Buzzing noise when starting with the remote starter- fixed by reprogramming ecm/tcm with software update.
-----owned for 2 Years----
22,930 miles- rear power liftgate does not stay/hold open- replaced both liftgate struts. Rear 115 volt outlet doesn't work- replaced fuse.
25,909 miles- thumping noise when turning again- "steering gear to have internal failure"- parts ordered
26,671 miles- replaced steering gear.
29,489 miles- heated washer fluid recall- entire thing was removed and disabled with no replacement ($100 reimbursement received)
30,659 miles- no rear heat- replaced HVAC control module
-----owned for 3 Years----
35,491 miles- check engine light- emissions vent valve and purge valve replaced.
36,058 miles- no heat at all- reprogram HVAC module.
As you can see I had many problems. Iv'e only been able to go 5-6,000 miles twice without taking it back to the dealer and after only 3 years (when the warranty ran up) I decided to get rid of it so I won't have to fix things out of pocket. I only had just over 36,000 miles on it.
I am very happy with my 2012 Pilot Touring AWD and after owning it for a little over a year, I am happy to report that I have not had any problems whatsoever with it! The Pilot drives so much better even though it only is a 5-speed and the gas mileage is better! Cargo capacity is only slightly smaller but the passenger area feels much more spacious because of the boxy styling. I and my passengers are much happier with the Pilot over the Acadia.
I bought the Acadia new and here are the problems I had with it and all the times I had to take it back to the dealer to fix them:
12/2007- Bought brand new with only 24 miles
5,142 miles- right turn signal not working- multifunction switch replaced, "water in passenger cabin"- sunroof leaking (supposedly both drain hoses kinked), both upper front strut mount bearings squeaking and replaced, brake pedal squaking (fixed by filling with new fluid)
7,252 miles- still have "water in passenger cabin"- sunroof leaking (holes sealed under 2nd row stationary sunroof and drain hose extensions added), TSB for flat spot/hesitation @ 40mph: reprogram transmission control module.
8,000 miles- wiper arm recall, both headlamp assemblies fogged and holding moisture- parts ordered
8,121 miles- replaced both headlamps.
-----owned for 1 Year----
9,232 miles- steering wheel clunking- replaced steering wheel intermediate shaft.
12,498 miles- thumping noise when turning- replaced steering rack.
19,820 miles- still have "water in passenger cabin"- water intrusion was actually from front cowl below windshield and at "right roof ditch", fixed by reasealing both areas. Buzzing noise when starting with the remote starter- fixed by reprogramming ecm/tcm with software update.
-----owned for 2 Years----
22,930 miles- rear power liftgate does not stay/hold open- replaced both liftgate struts. Rear 115 volt outlet doesn't work- replaced fuse.
25,909 miles- thumping noise when turning again- "steering gear to have internal failure"- parts ordered
26,671 miles- replaced steering gear.
29,489 miles- heated washer fluid recall- entire thing was removed and disabled with no replacement ($100 reimbursement received)
30,659 miles- no rear heat- replaced HVAC control module
-----owned for 3 Years----
35,491 miles- check engine light- emissions vent valve and purge valve replaced.
36,058 miles- no heat at all- reprogram HVAC module.
As you can see I had many problems. Iv'e only been able to go 5-6,000 miles twice without taking it back to the dealer and after only 3 years (when the warranty ran up) I decided to get rid of it so I won't have to fix things out of pocket. I only had just over 36,000 miles on it.
I am very happy with my 2012 Pilot Touring AWD and after owning it for a little over a year, I am happy to report that I have not had any problems whatsoever with it! The Pilot drives so much better even though it only is a 5-speed and the gas mileage is better! Cargo capacity is only slightly smaller but the passenger area feels much more spacious because of the boxy styling. I and my passengers are much happier with the Pilot over the Acadia.
Thought I'd add to this discussion. Had three previous gen Pilots which I loved and now own a 2011 Touring which I'm not that happy with, thinking of trading at 29k miles. Recently drove the new Pathfinder and have to say except for the reduction in cargo space, it really really smokes the Pilot in most areas. It's worth a test drive to those that are in the research mode. The 2011 is my 10th Honda, and have to say they aren't getting any better...the next gen Pilot better be a home run or they'll see their market share slowly erode.
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Keep in mind there were some big changes from 2011 to 2012. The body is almost identical, but the dashboard and controls are entirely re-done, and there were lots of drivetrain changes as well. In addition to a bunch of tech stuff. Have you driven a 2012 or 2013 as a comparison to the 2011?
we bought honda because initially we require big car and fit a lot of guys and it did fit 3 asian adult at the rear and 4 small adults in the middle so basically i can make 9 =D
i bought ex model 4wd(no 2wd in middle east) so i only get the basic stuff which i only require.
i bought ex model 4wd(no 2wd in middle east) so i only get the basic stuff which i only require.
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3 Asian adults? What the hell is that supposed to mean?
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Wife wanted a Kia Sorento because she owned one in 2004 and we had zero trouble. The Sorento's were smaller then but still had a 10 year 100K warranty.
I told the wife I wanted her to check out the Pilots as I did a lot of research when I was thinking about one for myself this last July (I ended up buying a 2013 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon unlimited and love it). My wife was a little leery to look at another Honda as we had an 06 Honda Odyssey that was nothing but problems. I told her that I knew it was a fluke and she needed to check it out.
I ended up finding a nice deal on a 2013 EX-L White/Grey AWD along with an 8yr/120K Honda care warranty and she liked it more than the new Kia's. I told her that even if we drive the wheels off of it, it will be worth more than that Kia would years down the road. We just picked it up Saturday and am very happy.
I told the wife I wanted her to check out the Pilots as I did a lot of research when I was thinking about one for myself this last July (I ended up buying a 2013 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon unlimited and love it). My wife was a little leery to look at another Honda as we had an 06 Honda Odyssey that was nothing but problems. I told her that I knew it was a fluke and she needed to check it out.
I ended up finding a nice deal on a 2013 EX-L White/Grey AWD along with an 8yr/120K Honda care warranty and she liked it more than the new Kia's. I told her that even if we drive the wheels off of it, it will be worth more than that Kia would years down the road. We just picked it up Saturday and am very happy.
honestly, we asians are much shorter than americans. that's why they can fit nicely on my pilot lol
asians usually around at 5'6-5'7 or less. of course there are also who is much taller.
2005 CR-V - loved it, zero problems.
Early 2007 - needed a bigger car. Visited auto show in NY, sat in every mid-size SUV there is. Found Pilot the most appealing and absolutely the best value. Plus, EX was equipped precisely as I wanted - everything I wanted, nothing I didn't want. OK, heated seats would be nice, but then again, cloth does not get that cold anyway. Never liked leather seats.
Late 2012 - 76k miles later, zero problems. Just usual maintenance stuff: brake pads, tires, a few light bulbs, air filters. Almost 6 years absolutely loving to drive the car through every weather imaginable. Never needing to clean the driveway of snow - it just went over the snowdrifts like they weren't there.
I have to say that I din't really like the front grill design on 2009 model. A trifle, but in a market where competition can be close, trifles count too. But 2012 grill design totally grabbed me. I loved the 2012 model inside and out, and the feature set of the EX was still exactly 'me'. And still a great value. So this time around, I did not even research anything else. Can't say I liked the look of anything else anyway. Pathfinder, Highlander, CX-9 All got that rounding at the back which I hate, which cuts the cargo space down.
One slight problem with the 2013 is it's higher, so it is harder for the kids and the elderly to get into. But I already ordered the side steps to remedy that.
Early 2007 - needed a bigger car. Visited auto show in NY, sat in every mid-size SUV there is. Found Pilot the most appealing and absolutely the best value. Plus, EX was equipped precisely as I wanted - everything I wanted, nothing I didn't want. OK, heated seats would be nice, but then again, cloth does not get that cold anyway. Never liked leather seats.
Late 2012 - 76k miles later, zero problems. Just usual maintenance stuff: brake pads, tires, a few light bulbs, air filters. Almost 6 years absolutely loving to drive the car through every weather imaginable. Never needing to clean the driveway of snow - it just went over the snowdrifts like they weren't there.
I have to say that I din't really like the front grill design on 2009 model. A trifle, but in a market where competition can be close, trifles count too. But 2012 grill design totally grabbed me. I loved the 2012 model inside and out, and the feature set of the EX was still exactly 'me'. And still a great value. So this time around, I did not even research anything else. Can't say I liked the look of anything else anyway. Pathfinder, Highlander, CX-9 All got that rounding at the back which I hate, which cuts the cargo space down.
One slight problem with the 2013 is it's higher, so it is harder for the kids and the elderly to get into. But I already ordered the side steps to remedy that.
Reliability, reliability and reliability...enough said, any GM vehicle is a waste of money, had a few GM SUV's and everyone one has "known" issues that were left for the consumer to fork out the repair for, find that not a good customer experience. After about 6 month researching, Pilot was on top in terms of room, looks, rugged yet luxurious, and like I said very reliable history.
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