[Bluetroll]

Thank you and yes, I expect I will have to trim the AeroBlade, but I was curious about the 710405 supports/feet. Where were you able to get that information from Thule to know that was the correct one? Their site currently states no compatibility for any of the 23-25 Pilots. Rack Attack shows compatibility for 23 and 24 but, no offense to Rack Attack, they are not Thule so if something went wrong I do not need Thule saying it was not compatible. Sorry, I am probably a little paranoid but...Thank you all again.

That's what I have. I ordered my kit 710405 and 60" wingbars from Rack Attack. I have had them on for about 10 months altogether and haven't had any issue. From time to time, I will retighten just to be safe.

I wouldn't go with OEM because it's just not enough storage space and I wouldn't go Yakima because I've had bad experiences with their build quality in the past.

 

[ecs132]

Thank you, Bluetroll. I actually just got of the phone with RackAttack (since I cannot get hold of Thule via email, chat, or phone) and RackAttacks comment was "I do not know how/where we approved the 710405 since it is not on the Thule Fit MasterList." They see the recommendation for the 23 and 24 on the RackAttack site but agree that Thule has no fit shown so they are not sure how they are able to show this set up. I agree that the 710405 is likely the right setup but interesting that no one can prove it. Thank you again and thanks for the comment with Yakima. Anything specific with Yakima issues.
I am still considering OEM as my set up may actually still work with what equipment I have for the rack, but I agree it may be a little tight. I actually posted recently but have not gotten a response...but if anyone else has the OEM rack and could provide the dimension along the length of the OEM cross bar that is the "exposed" or usable space between the support brackets it would be appreciated (basically from arrow to other side of crossbar).

I also assume we should not be setting any cargo box/kayak attachments on the actual horizonal portion of the support bracket... outside the arrow...

Thank you again.

 

[VC2]

I wouldn't go with OEM because it's just not enough storage space and I wouldn't go Yakima because I've had bad experiences with their build quality in the past.

I guess I’ve been fortunate with all my Yakima products since 1995. Okay, maybe one failed after 6 years. The arm of their original tray style hitch rack (2002-2003). came off, rusted bolt that attached it. The Yakima Timberline feet transferred over to the new Pilot from my Subaru 2018 Crosstrek without issue after I purchased a longer Jetstream crossbar. We have the same setup on our Ascent since 2019.

I’ve also had good luck with Thule also. Our roof box is going on 14 years. I did find Thule’s cross bar application for my 1996 VW Jetta GLX to be spot on, seamless on that vehicle.

 

[blairellis]

Just posted the dimensions in the other thread.

https://www.piloteers.org/threads/crossbars.180340/unread

 

[ecs132]

Blairellis, Thank you very much. This is great and I saw your note in the other post. I really appreciate your help.
Just a note for those continuing your research on Thule options for the 23-current racks, I finally was able to get hold of someone at Thule and they gave me their take on things...(officially from Thule). The 710405 is not supported. It was for the older Pilots but not the current ones. The raised rails on the Pilot (along with other Hondas and some Toyotas) are a "weird" shape and the 710405 does not officially grab the rail well enough to be approved by Thule. Why they have not created a new foot for this reason I (and she) did not know but they have not. The only foot pack that is officially approved by Thule (though still not on their site) is the 450R foot pack that wraps around the raised rail. Good luck trying to find the Crossroad Foot Pack 450R.
I have also seen 710410 (I believe) mentioned and the comment there was that that support has even worse grip on the 23-Current Pilot rails.
Thanks.

 

[Bluetroll]

For Yakima, I bought one of their higher end bike racks and started rusting out a year into ownership. To be fair, Yakima USA customer service offered to replace it, but I'm in Canada and warranty was handled by their Canada distributor which denied it. I've always found build quality and overall design to be 'cheaper' than the equivalent from Thule. So for those reasons, I stay away from Yakima.

I have a bunch of different category products made by Thule, when you use them you realize why their products are premium. It's the design and build quality. There's a reason why OE Manufacturers use rebranded Thule as their official accessories.

For me, the 710405 has been working really well for me. But I understand your concern now that it's not officially endorsed by Thule.

I believe the only way you'd find a 450R is on the second hand market as it's discontinued?

Good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[ecs132]

For Yakima, I bought one of their higher end bike racks and started rusting out a year into ownership. To be fair, Yakima USA customer service offered to replace it, but I'm in Canada and warranty was handled by their Canada distributor which denied it. I've always found build quality and overall design to be 'cheaper' than the equivalent from Thule. So for those reasons, I stay away from Yakima.

I have a bunch of different category products made by Thule, when you use them you realize why their products are premium. It's the design and build quality. There's a reason why OE Manufacturers use rebranded Thule as their official accessories.

For me, the 710405 has been working really well for me. But I understand your concern now that it's not officially endorsed by Thule.

I believe the only way you'd find a 450R is on the second hand market as it's discontinued?

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Bluetroll, thank you. I have found a few from actual stores that are able to ship (new not used). Thank you again for your assistance.

 

[Bluetroll]

Bluetroll, thank you. I have found a few from actual stores that are able to ship (new not used). Thank you again for your assistance.

Please share your setup when you got it installed. My wife and kids want to get into kayaking, so I may be getting kayaks and Thule kayak carriers sometime in the future.

 

[c360tx]

Didn't need to take off the pedals. I just put one bike facing the rear and one facing the front. These are kid's bikes, but wouldn't be a problem with adult bikes.

The pilot is amazing. I was able to fit 4 adults and 2 kids in car seats. 4 adult bikes and 2 kid's bikes.
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Looks sharp! Blacking out the fangs, front grill, and window trim is a nice touch as well!

 

[burton_bc]

That's what I have. I ordered my kit 710405 and 60" wingbars from Rack Attack. I have had them on for about 10 months altogether and haven't had any issue. From time to time, I will retighten just to be safe.

I wouldn't go with OEM because it's just not enough storage space and I wouldn't go Yakima because I've had bad experiences with their build quality in the past.

I'm struggling with the same thing. The 710405 kit is the "raised rail" setup, but Thule's fit guide keeps pushing me to the "flush mount" kit, which is typically designed for rails that aren't raised. Which is odd, because the factory rack is definitely raised. My only thought is that the positioning of the bars is over the support beam of the factory rails. Any comments would be helpful! It's for a 2025 Pilot.

 

[Bluetroll]

I'm struggling with the same thing. The 710405 kit is the "raised rail" setup, but Thule's fit guide keeps pushing me to the "flush mount" kit, which is typically designed for rails that aren't raised. Which is odd, because the factory rack is definitely raised. My only thought is that the positioning of the bars is over the support beam of the factory rails. Any comments would be helpful! It's for a 2025 Pilot.

I think it’s because when I ordered the kit, the 23 was still too new and it was still based on the 22.

I'm assuming later on they tested it and didn't think it fit the 23+ well enough.

I'm happy with the fitment, it's not going anywhere when clamped down. Though if you're maxing out roof rack weight then I would be a bit hesitant. I've probably had 100lbs on the roof for a 4 hour road trip and it's been ok.

 

[CACamper]

Thanks to all of this great info. I just switched my Wingbar 53" for 60" only to discover they won't fit my rails. And, I thought of cutting a deeper channel, but wasn't certain that was a viable solution. I'm feeling confident about it now. I need to get my fishing yak and my rooftop cargo carrier atop my vehicle and the 53" bars are just a tad too short. I envision upcoming my weekend project to go smoothly (said nobody ever!) LOL. Anyway, thanks!