Has anyone found quieter tires than the OEMs. Mine are the Goodyear Integrity's
quieter tires
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I've got the Fortera SAtires and they did make a big improvement in reducing cabin noise.
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I'm driving on the Goodyear Fortera Silent Armor. Highest rated at TireRack for road noise ad other atributes. I'm very pleased although road noise is still high when compared to other mid-size SUV's.ajwoods said:
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I was disappointed with the Goodyear tires placed by the factory on my '05 and '06 Pilots. I have placed Cooper Discoverer Mud+Snow tires on the vehicles and found that the road noise, rideability, and traction were greatly improved. The wear on the tires is good for about 30,000 miles and the cost is substantially less than other "high name brand" tires. In my trips in the vehicle during substantial pouring rain, I was the only vehicle moving on the interstate!
I wonder if any of you have used Coopers before and your experience with them. Before I took delivery on the 2006, I had the dealer put on the Coopers!
I was disappointed with the Goodyear tires placed by the factory on my '05 and '06 Pilots. I have placed Cooper Discoverer Mud+Snow tires on the vehicles and found that the road noise, rideability, and traction were greatly improved. The wear on the tires is good for about 30,000 miles and the cost is substantially less than other "high name brand" tires. In my trips in the vehicle during substantial pouring rain, I was the only vehicle moving on the interstate!
I wonder if any of you have used Coopers before and your experience with them. Before I took delivery on the 2006, I had the dealer put on the Coopers!
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I too, was disappointed with the road noise.
I had my Son-in-law, who is with Toyota, purchase some of the undercoating that Toyota uses on their vehicles [Wesley's].
I had the apparent areas undercoated and it did make a noticeable reduction, just not enough.
I am going to change out the tires soon to see how much difference that makes and might add a second layer of undercoating if the road noise improvement is not enough.
I will try the Michelin's first, since I use Michelins on our fleet and they are very good [I have tried most every other Mfg.]
When my Pilot was on the lift, I was sort of disappointed with the quality of the fitup and welding on the engine's subframe [cradle] under the vehicle. There were large gaps in the nesting points and they just tack welded them anyway.
I have a hard time believing they could pass any other QC inspection than Honda's. Our Fleet maintenance Vendor [whose lift rack it was on] said He was even disappointed with the welds/nesting, since "It is a Honda".
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I had my Son-in-law, who is with Toyota, purchase some of the undercoating that Toyota uses on their vehicles [Wesley's].
I had the apparent areas undercoated and it did make a noticeable reduction, just not enough.
I am going to change out the tires soon to see how much difference that makes and might add a second layer of undercoating if the road noise improvement is not enough.
I will try the Michelin's first, since I use Michelins on our fleet and they are very good [I have tried most every other Mfg.]
When my Pilot was on the lift, I was sort of disappointed with the quality of the fitup and welding on the engine's subframe [cradle] under the vehicle. There were large gaps in the nesting points and they just tack welded them anyway.
I have a hard time believing they could pass any other QC inspection than Honda's. Our Fleet maintenance Vendor [whose lift rack it was on] said He was even disappointed with the welds/nesting, since "It is a Honda".
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I am disappointed to hear about the undercarriage fit-up. Consumer Reports and others rated this vehicle high when compared to others and I was really impressed when we picked up our '05. We were more impressed when driving the '06 home because it was so much quieter than the '05 and thought the fit was even better!
I never thought of the undercoating to reduce noise. That's a good point. There used to be a time when the dealer would try and sell a good undercoat for the vehicle. And there were 3rd party professional undercoaters which are not heard from these days.
We live in a snow belt and require AWD/4WD to really get around and be safe in the winter months; hence the Honda Pilot. I might give undercoating a shot to see if the noise level will drop.
It's very acceptable now with the Coopers and the ride is really nice. My associates on a recent business trip were really impressed with the comfort and the ride and the quiet. Undercoating may really seal the deal. [Sorry about the pun.]
Thanks for the tip!
I never thought of the undercoating to reduce noise. That's a good point. There used to be a time when the dealer would try and sell a good undercoat for the vehicle. And there were 3rd party professional undercoaters which are not heard from these days.
We live in a snow belt and require AWD/4WD to really get around and be safe in the winter months; hence the Honda Pilot. I might give undercoating a shot to see if the noise level will drop.
It's very acceptable now with the Coopers and the ride is really nice. My associates on a recent business trip were really impressed with the comfort and the ride and the quiet. Undercoating may really seal the deal. [Sorry about the pun.]
Thanks for the tip!
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What are Toyo tires like? The only place I see them is Colony Tire where they are their "off brand" behind Goodyear, Michelin etc. If you can't afford a brand name they steer you to Toyo since they are cheaper. could be I have a bad impression.chas22 said:
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I have ran Toyo tires on 2 other cars I have owned. The tires are quiet and have a good feel. My last set of Michelin the rubber got hard and noisy and i haven't been a fan of Goodyear for years.
http://www.toyo.com/flash.html
http://www.toyo.com/flash.html
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Like you I was a skeptic of Goodyear tires for years...until I experienced the Silent Armor. It is an outstanding tire and made a significant difference in reducing road noise. It also has excellent rain control.chas22 said:
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Could well be that you have a bad impression.Sportymonk said:
For 2004, and the prior 7 years in an annual survey published in Tire Review magazine,
Toyo tires were rated by independent tire dealers as having the highest product quality.
For 2005, Toyo (with 9.2 points out of 10) was just edged out by Michelin (9.4/10) and Bridgestone (9.3/10).
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Same here except I haven't bought any Goodyear's yet. I had an 84 Plymouth Voyager minivan when they first came out and they had the oddest wear pattern on the rear tires. They would wear out not on the inner or outer edges or in the center but on the tread about 1/3 and 2/3s across the tire. ( Of 5 ribs (is that the correct term?) it would be number 2 and 4.) Went around and around with Plymouth and Goodyear. Goodyear blamed Chrysler, Chrysler blamed Goodyear. Goodyear dealer finally agreed to replace the two OEM rear tires but he put the new tires on the front and the OEM fronts on the rear. Ggrrrr. Wanted to keep the OEMs on the front to see if the new tires wore the same as the old OEMS on the rear. (Don't ask why I didn't change them, can't remember) Went to Germany and put on Michelin's and the problem never happened. Haven't purchased Goodyear's since.hondafan4evr said:
Goodyear Integrity's on my 05 Pilot are ok. no real problems, they are black, round and roll. Haven't slid or had any noise yet but don't have any reference point on the Pilot to compare to. Wish I could drive or ride in somebody's Pilot with another tire.
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I think that the idea of pulling the fender liners and undercoating under them is a good idea. Replacing the tires will soon follow.
I will soon have it back on the rack to install the "MDX type" subframe bolt stiffener kit [it is on backorder now].
I am hoping the stiffener kit will solve a problem with the rear end "wagging" when going through winding roads pulling my boat. I have the factory tow kit and my 20' boat, with it's aluminum trailer and all composite construction [Allison Grandsport] weighs less than 2000 pounds, with an 80 pound tongue weight.
My jet ski/galvanized trailer, weighs close to the same as my boat, but is shorter and does not seem to "Wag" the rear end like the boat does. This makes it appear that, side to side leverage has a lot to do with it and the bolt deflection might be the cause.
I think it's worth a try.
JR
I will soon have it back on the rack to install the "MDX type" subframe bolt stiffener kit [it is on backorder now].
I am hoping the stiffener kit will solve a problem with the rear end "wagging" when going through winding roads pulling my boat. I have the factory tow kit and my 20' boat, with it's aluminum trailer and all composite construction [Allison Grandsport] weighs less than 2000 pounds, with an 80 pound tongue weight.
My jet ski/galvanized trailer, weighs close to the same as my boat, but is shorter and does not seem to "Wag" the rear end like the boat does. This makes it appear that, side to side leverage has a lot to do with it and the bolt deflection might be the cause.
I think it's worth a try.
JR
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The tongue weight has a lot to do with the trailer's "arm moments" in relation to the axle. I realize what your are talking about, with too little tongue weight, the trailer has a tendency to "Bob" up and down when traveling over bumps and can produce some lift on the rear of the vehicle.
The setup on my trailer generates very little/no upward force since the trailer's CG remains close to it's axle. It pulls like a "dream" on my F150 4X4. It's very easy to forget it is back there.
The problem that I have is a side to side swaying that feels like a low tire [only] on winding roads, pulling the trailer. This could be deflection of the subframe attachment due to the side leverage of the trailer's tongue on tight back to back turns.
Over rough roads and at fast highway speed it pulls great [but with poor gas mileage].
JR
The setup on my trailer generates very little/no upward force since the trailer's CG remains close to it's axle. It pulls like a "dream" on my F150 4X4. It's very easy to forget it is back there.
The problem that I have is a side to side swaying that feels like a low tire [only] on winding roads, pulling the trailer. This could be deflection of the subframe attachment due to the side leverage of the trailer's tongue on tight back to back turns.
Over rough roads and at fast highway speed it pulls great [but with poor gas mileage].
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Just replaced tires at 67K from originals. Put on Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza $145 each. Rides more quiet. Didn't say anything to wife and she mentioned a quieter ride.
Just replaced tires at 67K from originals. Put on Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza $145 each. Rides more quiet. Didn't say anything to wife and she mentioned a quieter ride.
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Road Noise
I decided to try some more undercoating, but I wanted more time to look over the underside and not be rushed by using a Vendor's lift. Our lift is tied up with a '69 Stringray restoration project can on it [no wheels].
I took a couple of towmotors and chocked the forks with some 4x4 blocks.
By lifting from the front and rear, I had really good access to the underside of the vehicle.
I applied 5 cans of undercoating to the bottomside of the vehicle. I also discovered there were voids that travel up into the cockpit just beneath the rear door posts [beside the driver's seat]. I sprayed a lot of undercoating up into the voids and applied it very heavy inside the fenderwells.
The road noise seems to have diminished slightly, but I still get a slight whine from the goodyears especially when accelerating/decelerating/turning.
I think it was worth the time/expense, just like the MDX subframe braces.
JR
I decided to try some more undercoating, but I wanted more time to look over the underside and not be rushed by using a Vendor's lift. Our lift is tied up with a '69 Stringray restoration project can on it [no wheels].
I took a couple of towmotors and chocked the forks with some 4x4 blocks.
By lifting from the front and rear, I had really good access to the underside of the vehicle.
I applied 5 cans of undercoating to the bottomside of the vehicle. I also discovered there were voids that travel up into the cockpit just beneath the rear door posts [beside the driver's seat]. I sprayed a lot of undercoating up into the voids and applied it very heavy inside the fenderwells.
The road noise seems to have diminished slightly, but I still get a slight whine from the goodyears especially when accelerating/decelerating/turning.
I think it was worth the time/expense, just like the MDX subframe braces.
JR
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