Might be worthwhile to show us pics of the damaged areas?

 

Don't see how Honda would have any responsiblity for damage done to a vehicle by the owner. I have jacked my '06 Pilot up several times both front and back using the proper front and rear jack points without any damage.

 

I went to rotate tires on 04 pilot and jacked up both front and back on passenger side with floor jacks using jack points called for in manual. After tires were swithched and car lowered I saw large wrinkle in sheet metal over front wheel, and fender was also pushed back so it bound up against door when opening or closing. I assumed that this vehicle could be jacked up back and front at same time to rotate tires - as I have done with 10-15 cars over past 25 years. Any body have a similar problem? Does Honda have any responsibility for this problem?

Something does not seem right.

Just were did you put the jacks?
How hard did you drop the Pilot back down?

 

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I hate to say it, but my guess is that you mis-identified the proper jacking point and put the jack in the wrong place. If I'm wrong and you used the jacking point, I'd think that Honda would have some liability for a jacking point that's defective, but being an '04, I doubt that this is the first time the car has been raised up.

 

so the jacking points shown on the lower body panel joints are intended for notched jacking cradles, allowing the weld area to sit straight. One of the first times I tried to rotate the tires on the '04 Pilot I put a flat jacking cradle on that front point and started to jack the vehicle up, and noticed that the weld area was starting to move, oh so slightly, to one side. I figured that if I jacked it up, and then tried to also jack the rear in the same fashion, the pressure would cause the bottom of the panel to bend and cause the problems like you describe. I actually bought a floor jack cradle that has a special adapter to fit into these weld areas, so it puts the pressure on the piece straight up/down, and not allowing side-to-side movement. works like a champ. I bet if you look, the underside points are bent flat against the body......

andy

 

I'm a little confused on how to properly jack up the pilot and use jack stands to support it. I plan on using a floor jack with a standard round cradle, like the one in the link below to raise the Pilot using the central jacking points which raise both front or both rear tires off the ground at the same time.

Floor Jack

Then I plan to put jack stands under the SIDE jacking points behind the front wheels or in front of the rear wheels. These are the jacking points that the OEM jack fits. The problem is that the jack stands I'm going to use are very similar to the ones in the link below and their saddles are shaped like a valley - a "V". The vertical piece of metal that comes down from the frame on the side jacking points is not tall (i.e. long) enough to reach the bottom of the "V" in the jack stand. The pressure from the weight should be directly on this vertical piece of metal, correct?

Jack Stands

So, am I supposed to use jack stands on the side jacking points as support points for the Pilot, or am I supposed to try and place them somewhere on the subframe or the suspension to support the truck while I work on it?

 

I jack my Pilot as you describe and use those same exact stands that I bought from HF.

I place the jack so that the mettal piece on the Pilot hits towards the edge of the stand so it doesn't go all the way into that deep saddle part.

I put the car up this way every 5K miles (I use 4 jack stands) for tire rotations and have not had any problems (45K on car).

 

Great! Thanks Roger. I considered doing that but I thought that the vertical metal piece of the side jack points could slip off its position on the jack stand, but it's obviously okay. The other option I was thinking of was to put a block of wood on top of the jack stand, but I'm pretty sure the vertical metal piece would gouge the wood and be unstable. Thanks again!

 

I use the same method as well. For jack stand suggestions, I highly recommend the Torin 6-ton model. You can get them through Northern Tool for $39.99/pair. You might have a location near you which will help on the shipping costs. In addition to having a flatter contact area, the Torin stands have a locking pin for that extra measure of safety.