I would call and ask why 5 20 was used and see what the say. Its not really gonna hurt anything but down the road if there was a warrant issue a stink could be caused if Honda really wanted to. Just make some fighting on your end.

as far as the filter goes thats a tough one. you would have to take it out break apart and see the condition. From now on ask them to write the date on them when they replace them. Also inquire to why the oil is still looking dirty... of course opinions can vary on what dirty can be.

Maybe try to get them to at least swap out the 5w 20 with 0 20. Try to watch them or maybe add some oil to it so you know its overfilled and see where its at when they are done.

Just looked it up and it seems Honda says every other change is fine.... Not on my cars

 

Don't sweat it, it won't harm anything. But if it makes you sleep better at night, head back to the dealer and have them change it out to 0w-20.

 

Depending on the climate the 5w oil might make a difference. The 0 or in this case 5 weight is the cold oil viscosity. If you’re in a colder climate the oil may not be “thin” enough to properly get to the areas that need lubrication.

 

Calling will result in you getting an answer just to get you off the phone. Going to dealership will get you Action.

 

5w20 wouldn't hurt anything. I have used them for a long time and I am using them as I have them in stocks rather than buy new oil. Mobile 1 synthetic 5w20.

 

I think Honda migrated to 0W-20 for fuel economy. Their old standard was 5W-20. I don't think it will hurt a thing except possibly fuel economy.

 

Truthfully doesn't matter... I change all of my own oil and use Royal Purple 5-20W in all my cars.... Also I do it when it says oil like 50%....

350k miles on my TL and driving it hard!... hoping to get the same on my pilot...

 

Of course it matters. How much? Hm. Why not just put in whatever oil you randomly pick up off the shelf?

There are engineers designing cars for a reason.

And I'm not saying anybody is right or wrong about it not making a significant difference between 0W-20 and 5W-20, depending on conditions. But using one car with even a couple hundred thousand miles on it as proof that it doesn't matter, that just isn't solid evidence.

It's similar to the octane rating debate people have. Some people think higher octane gas is 'better' gas. But it just isn't. If your car is designed for 87, putting 89 or 91 (US) is not better. But some people (I used to be one of them) 'feel' like they get better mileage or whatever.

With a few exceptions, following the owner's manual is the best course of action and you can't far wrong if that is your base starting point.

 

And how do you know they used 5-20?

Maybe they used 0-20 but the guy is so used to hitting 5-20 when printing the invoice, he didn't change it.

And how are you checking to see the oil is dirty? Filters keep the residue in them, or there would be no point to the filter being there. So like, I think you're a little paranoid about these issues.

 

What I am saying is moving between 0-20 and 5-20 is the same thing. Because the viscosity ratings they are both 20 at operating temperatures.

The 5 is when it is at freezing temperatures of the block.... So for all intents and purpose, its the same damn thing.

So won't do anything for mileage consumption and won't do any more protection or less.... Just change it back in the next oil change.

Please....

What matters is just using quality oil and it has been tested that high grade oil like mobile, red line, royal purple is the same thing as any other dealer oil.... blackstone labs.

Also changing oil a closer frequency than rated because the additives that protect moving parts break down as it heat cycles.

 

The first digit of the oil viscosity matters. In cold climates and on a cold start 0w less viscous and can more easily reach areas than 5w oil. I'm sure the engineers arbitrarily selected an oil weight to use in the J35 Earth Dreams engine. Watch this video, which weight oil will protect and lubricate faster at cold temps?

 

This is a moot point. Its -30c in the video, point is not valid in his conditions nor in most people's condition as that is an edge case..... He is talking about 1 oil change and I doubt he is living in alaska? I dunno could be wrong? Even coldest part of Michigan rarely gets to -30c?

 

-30 degrees Celsius is -22 degrees Fahrenheit. Which it realistically happens in the northern parts of the United States. We hit -18 degrees Fahrenheit in Nebraska in January or -27.78 degrees Celsius. It absolutely matters why do you think Honda’s engineers recommend it?

 

So yeah, the weights of oil isn't marketing gimic. It matters.

Does it matter that maybe there is 0W or 5W in the Pilot for one change? Yeah, a little tiny bit. Probably totally negligible unless the ambient temps at the time it is used are very cold. So if it was 10W-40, most people would probably say you should change it cause it is a bigger difference at operating temp.

My point is that you don't really know the dealer put in what the receipt says. If it was me, I'd go to the dealer and ask about that. Ask if what the receipt says is always accurate, and should you be concerned. Hopefully your dealer is cool and they'll spend a few minutes having a discussion, and let you know whether or not they have a variety of oils that they always use, and how they confirm it for a customer. It sucks but more likely, the guy will be dismissive and try to blow you off. But you never know. It is a good idea, in my opinion, to at least try to have a rapport with your dealer or mechanic, especially if you're going to go back again for any regular visit.

Read more about oil viscosity and decide what you think is best. I'd probably leave it unless it was the second number that was off. But I change my own oil so I don't have to wonder.

 

thanks so much for the video