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As to this statement-
There is no proof that there any additives.

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Actually, its listed on Honda's website that it does.


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Please point out where it says that. I haven't been able find such a claim. They do say in one place it is "specially formulated". That can mean anything, like maybe it is thinner oil, which used to be common in new vehicles and is still done on some.

Here's my puzzler- If this original oil has some special and presumably good additive, then why don't they sell it to add to the oil at every change???

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Bean said:
I know this thread is a month old, but...

Just curious if those of you who did your own oil change can shed some light on how it went?
Were the filter and the drain bolt easy to access? Is the filter your typical screw-on type, or is it a cartridge?
I recall someone mentioning in another thread about a "crush" washer that should be replaced when you put the drain bolt back on. Are those washers available at the dealer?


Very easy and a typical spin on oil filter in a pretty convenient place compared to some. BTW I was out of town and stopped at the Honda dealer in Aiken SC and he GAVE me some crush washers and a bottle of touch up paint! Nice place to do business with apparently.

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Several things come to mind here.
If the original "break-in" oil indeed has a high level of molybdenum disulfide, that seems counter to allowing natural wear patterns to develop. Moly is an *anti-wear* additive. Seems that would inhibit such patterns from developing.
Synthetic is now standard from the factory on several vehicles, so this seems to contradict all the "legend" on it inhibiting proper break-in.
All very puzzling indeed. Me, I changed the oil at 2500 and it disturbed me waiting that long, I have always been a very early changer during break-in. I figure if the oil DID have some magical properties it was long enough, if it didn't, then it wasn't TOO long to wait.:p

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If that isn't a metric vice grip you could screw up the oil drain bolt.....
 
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