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Hi everyone: Just took my Pilot EX in for its first oil change at 5300 miles. I bought it last April so this is my first MPLS winter with it. I had a Subaru Legacy. Even with the AWD, it needed Blizzaks.
What kind of winter tires would you recommend I purchase for my Pilot? We usually get lots of snow, but worse than the snow is the iceand I'm not sure anything can deal with that. The black ice is a nightmare.
The Blizzaks did the job and I thought of just sticking with them, but I wanted to get your input before I go tire shopping. Any websites, businesses in the area, reading material I should look into?
Your feedback is always appreciated. I really love my Pilot. It's one fine car that deserves one fine set of winter tires. It came with Duelers.
 

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If you've been happy with Blizzaks, especially if black ice is a major concern, then by all means stay with them. The only downside to the Blizzaks, as you probably know, is that only the top 55% of the tread is the "Blizzak" ice gripping compound, while the remaining 45% is a more ordinary snow tire compound.

See this test report, here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/winter_perftest_02.jsp

Also, there's a newer version of the DM-Z2 available, the DM-Z3:
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/dpp/glamourindex2.asp?passproductid=1077
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Blizzak+DM-Z3

Another similar type of tire is the Yokohama Geolandar I/T: http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=13

On the other hand, if much of your driving is highway miles and/or the roads in your area often dry out between storms, then you might want to consider one of the European brands of snow tires, which will give you somewhat more responsive handling on dry and/or warmer days at the expense of somewhat worse grip on ice.

Three such tires are:

Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow:
http://www.us.pirelli.com/en_US/tyres/catalog/tyre_category.jhtml?catid=US_SUVWI&productid=5123
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Scorpion+Ice+&+Snow

Michelin 4x4 Alpin: http://michelinman.com/catalog/tires/Michelin4x4Alpin.html?tiretype=5&tire=0
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=4X4+Alpin

Nokian Hakkapeliitta SUV:
http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/tires_popup.cfm?id=29

Unless you're going to buy the tires pre-mounted on rims from, for example, the Tire Rack (www.tirerack.com), then you should check here (http://209.176.154.132/pub/search/findgsp9700.cfm) to find a dealer/installer with a Hunter GSP9700 in order to ensure accurate mounting on your rims and the most precise balancing.
 

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Wow. xGS, Thank you much. I'll follow your advice and look into those other tires as well as making sure I get the right dealer for proper balance. No, I didn't know that percentage about the Blizzaks. Interesting. Thank you again.
 

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xGS, do you know any good online stores with a good deal on the Nokian tires... Thanks !
 

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The only online dealer I've used is the Tire Rack (www.tirerack.com), but unfortunately they don't sell Nokian tires.

eTires (www.etires.com) seems to have a good selection of Nokian tires.
Although the Hakkapeliitta SUV model isn't listed, eTires does have the Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tire (http://www.etires.com/showSizes.jsp?manufacturer=nokian&category=SNOWS&group=HAKKA1)
(http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/tires_popup.cfm?id=3 )
and the WR SUV all-season plus tire
(http://www.etires.com/showSizes.jsp?manufacturer=nokian&category=SNOWS&group=WR)
(http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/tires_popup.cfm?id=17)

Positive comments about the Nokian WR by regrus and sodakpilot can be found in this thread:
(http://www.honda-pilot.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=5451)
 

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Thank you xGS!

Apparently, if you click 'Add to cart' on any tire selection they will then provide a price! :D

When I checked the prices for 235/70R16 105T Nokian WR tires they came out to $130 ea. :eek: (I never owned an SUV so I'm used to small tire prices)
 

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Any thoughts on the Goodyear Wrangler Ultra Grip winter tire. It's the only light truck winter tire they have in the Pilot's tire size.

Surprisingly, Goodyear hardly markets this particular tire.
 

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why doesn't anyone talk about running studs on there pilot? up here in montana i run them on my 2500 dodge 4wd truck, my wife used to run them on her maxima, and now i will get her some for the pilot. no matter what tire co tell you nothing stops on ice like iron, wether it's chains or studs.

one question will 15"rims fir on the pilot?

jim
 

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Commuter:

Goodyear doesn't push its snow tires even in Canada? Go figure!

The German Automobile Association website [http://www.adac.de] has tire test results for winter tires in size 235/70R16
[http://www.adac.de/Tests/Reifentests/Gelaendewagen/default.asp?ComponentID=32074&SourcePageID=8762]. The top (3-star) rated winter tires were the Continental 4X4 WinterContact, the Michelin 4X4 Alpin and the Pirelli Scorpion Ice+Snow. The Goodyear Wrangler UltraGrip (UG) was rated 2-stars. It was not much worse than the first 3 tires in dry, wet and icy conditions but was significantly worse on snow. No tires by Nokian were included in the test.

Volco Tires and Wheels have some customer ratings on their website www.1010tires.com. The Bridgestone Blizzak DM-Z2 and the Michelin 4x4 Alpin both rate a 4.2 out of 5. The Goodyear Wrangler Ultra Grip rates a 3.2. There are no ratings for the Pirelli or Yokohama tires and they don't have any tires by Nokian.

Jim_1:

Regarding studded tires, it depends upon your local road conditions and what the motor vehicle regulations permit. If you're always driving on ice or the roads in your area never get cleared down to bare pavement, then studded snow tires can be hard to beat. On the other hand, Minnesota and Wisconsin prohibit the use of studded tires. Also, studded tires are less than optimum if the temperature rises enough for the roads to become simply wet.

Following are two options for snow tires that are pinned for studs and are available in size 235/70R16:

http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/bfgapp/catalog/tires/winterslalom.jsp
http://www.mastercare-usa.com/tires/catalog/winterforce-winterforce.jsp

You'd have to try the 15" rims to see if they will clear the brake discs and calipers. My choice would be to get a set of the 16" steel rims used on the LX model.
 

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that's to bad some sates don't allow studs. we run them from them november until march, it stays below 32 most of that time so wet isn't that big of a deal.

how many miles do you get out of a set of blizzaks, or other sticky snow tires?

jim
 
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