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I'm replacing the Goodyear Integritys on my Pilot with Michelin Cross Terrains. Couldn't get the same deal Mkell got on his upgrade, after puncturing both driver side tires last weekend...road hazard.

So if I'm going to pay a premium for Michelin CTs I want to upgrade tires size. I could go with 245R70x16, with slight change in tire diameter (709 revs/mile vs OEM 712), but I would like to go with 255/65H16.

Tire dealer needs to check with Michelin and get back to me. Michelin says too new, no data, but I went up two sizes on my 99 Ody from 215/65R16 to 235/60H16 Energy MXV4 Plus, and they fit fine. Honda America says manual states 235/70R70.

Anyone upgraded to larger tires on stock rims?

BTW Piloteers, you need to have a contingency plan for when your Goodyear Integrity "Passenger Car tires" give out. The numbers listed in the manual and supplemental tire warranty information are innaccessible or will only tell you there is no "road hazard warranty".
 

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Never mind...
Called Tire Rack and they stated that 235/70r16 are the largest size tire that will fit Pilot. They stated convincingly that while my 99 Odyssey permitted two size increase, the Pilot is already at the largest size the suspension/fender well would permit.

235/70R16 it is......or maybe 235/65H16...?!
 

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Rim Protectors

Then Costco/Price Club called back.....
The gal checked with her manager who checked with a Honda Dealer.....said 255/65H16 Michelin Cross Terrains would fit!!!
They are ordering me a set to arrive in 4-5 bus. days!!

The slight increase in width (10.2 vs 9.5 OEM), and decrease in diameter (29 vs 29.1 OEM) make negligible increase in speedo (717 vs 712 OEM revs per mile). But the H rating provides a little extra margin for error (cooler running tire), and I suspect accounts for the permitted 44 psi max pressure compared to the 35 psi max permitted for the S rated tires.

Makes it a little more tolerable buying set of tires for a new vehicle....counts as an upgrade. Another bonus is the H rated Cross Terrains have UTQG of 540 & max load rating of 2271 lbs vs 440 & 1984 lbs for the S rated tires.

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My expectations are modest. Went through this tire upgrade with my 99 Ody EX going from 215/65R16 Firestone Affinitys to 235/60H16 Michelin Energy MXV4 Pluses. That time I got a huge increase in handling, turn-in, comfort, & quiet with no down side. This time, I hope the CTs match or exceed the Goodyear Integritys for quiet, comfort and know they will provide huge improvement in handling, durability, and peace of mind.
 

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largest 16" tire size

Pirate-kat,

I am almost certain that the Pilot rim width is 6.5". The 255/65 Cross Terrains are for a rim width of 7-9". The max tire size(Cross Terrains) for a 6.5" rim width is 235/70(stock size). I too wanted to get wider Cross Terrains for my EX-L but when I founnd this info out I had to settle for 235/70 Cross Terrains. Please double check to see if the Pilot rims are 6.5" and if the 255/65's can be mounted safely on them. I hope you are right because I would love to exchange my 235/70's for 255/65's.

Bob
 

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You're absolutley right. Wheels are 16" x 6.5".
 

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Here are some tire specs on the Michelin CT in different sizes from Tire Rack. Notice that some larger sizes are comatible with the 6.5" wheels, but of course your RPM's change. It looks as if you could go two sizes in the 70 series but not down to the 65 series.
They would be bigger overall but may look a little ballooned on the stock wheel. Food for thought.

Me, I'm opting for 17x8 wheels for an extra $725. since I would have been changing the tires anyway. This gives me what I want for what I consider a reasonable price. Someone had mentioned why not go an MDX if you want 17" wheels, well, $6-8k is alot to pay for 17" wheels that, too, are only 6.5" wide. They would need to be changed out anyway on the MDX IMHO.


235/70SR16 104S SL OWL 420 A B
Load- 1984lbs.
Rim Width- 6-8"
Diameter- 29.1"
RPM- 712

245/70SR16 106S SL OWL 520 A B
2094lbs.
6.5-8"
29.5"
709

245/75SR16 109S SL OWL 520 A B
2271lbs.
6.5-8"
30.2"
691

255/65HR16 109H SL 520 A B
2271lbs.
7-9"
29"
717

255/70SR16 109S SL OWL 520 A B
2271lbs.
6.5-8.5"
30.2"
693
 

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Hi Mdxlite Marco's back and here are some tire specs that I found


P20555R16 P21555R16 P255/55ZR17 and my personal fav that have on my pilot

P335/30ZR18
 

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Finale!

After considerable deliberation (obsessing) I decided to replace with stock size. All the knowledgable resources indicated stock size; Tirerack, Honda Corp, and Radial Tire in B'more where I bought the tires.

Settled on 235/70R16 due to concerns re: warranty, and snow/wet performance.

See more at: "Goodyear Integrity as OEM"
http://honda-pilot.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=280&highlight=OEM+tires
 
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