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I have a 2003 Pilot and a 2012 EX with the 18" wheels. The 2012 has tires with the OEM size of 235/60R-18 on it. It is going to need new tires in the next few months. I have a 2003 that became the weekend trailer hauler 14 months ago. I put new tires on it about 3 months before that, so it has only a few thousand miles on those tires. They are 235/70-16. I am wondering if I can swap the wheels/tires between the 2012 and 2003 Pilots. I like the look of the ones on the 2003, and they are a brand I like. I can't get the 2012 OEM tire size in that brand.
 

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After doing some more thinking my calculations based on the tire sizes:

With a 235mm wide tire, the 2003 has a sidewall height of 164.5 mm, divided by 25mm to the inch = a sidewall height of 6.58". that x2 + a 16" wheel gives an overall diameter of 29"
The equivalent calculations on the 2012 gives an overall diameter of 29 1/4" so the wheel diameters are pretty close to the same.
 

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After doing some more thinking my calculations based on the tire sizes:

With a 235mm wide tire, the 2003 has a sidewall height of 164.5 mm, divided by 25mm to the inch = a sidewall height of 6.58". that x2 + a 16" wheel gives an overall diameter of 29"
The equivalent calculations on the 2012 gives an overall diameter of 29 1/4" so the wheel diameters are pretty close to the same.
I would not put those old rims on my newer Pilot. A 1/4 of an inch may not sound like much but I'd be more concerned with handling. You can get great tires now at a much lower price. I buy the Sumitomo HTR A/S P02 for my Honda's.
 

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I guess it depends on how important brakes are to you.
 

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Please explain what's going on here for me and all the kiddies. Looks like good info.
The 2012 tires/wheels listed by the OP: 235/60R-18
The 2003 tires/wheels listed by the OP: 235/70-16

The left of the illustration is the 2012 tire/wheels set up as listed. The right illustration is the 2003 wheel/tire sizing on the assumed OE 2012 tire/wheel. If you look at the top of the right illustration it indicates that the 2003 wheel will rub on the brakes.
 

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The 2012 tires/wheels listed by the OP: 235/60R-18
The 2003 tires/wheels listed by the OP: 235/70-16

The left of the illustration is the 2012 tire/wheels set up as listed. The right illustration is the 2003 wheel/tire sizing on the assumed OE 2012 tire/wheel. If you look at the top of the right illustration it indicates that the 2003 wheel will rub on the brakes.
Ok, I got the picture now. Thanks for the explanation.
 

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The left of the illustration is the 2012 tire/wheels set up as listed. The right illustration is the 2003 wheel/tire sizing on the assumed OE 2012 tire/wheel. If you look at the top of the right illustration it indicates that the 2003 wheel will rub on the brakes.
Question is: Will whoever attempts to install the wheels on the vehicle actually be able to get to the point of finding out that the 2003 wheels won't clear the 2012 brakes?
(Compare the info from the two links in post #4 for a clue to the answer.)
 

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Question is: Will whoever attempts to install the wheels on the vehicle actually be able to get to the point of finding out that the 2003 wheels won't clear the 2012 brakes?
(Compare the info from the two links in post #4 for a clue to the answer.)
I take it you have never seen someone who thought they could ream out lug holes on a wheel before to make them fit. Some people will try anything to save money.

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Question is: Will whoever attempts to install the wheels on the vehicle actually be able to get to the point of finding out that the 2003 wheels won't clear the 2012 brakes?
(Compare the info from the two links in post #4 for a clue to the answer.)
If you are financially in a bind, a person may see this as a possible solution. The OP was wise enough to ask first. That is the key point.
 
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If you are financially in a bind, a person may see this as a possible solution. The OP was wise enough to ask first. That is the key point.
That is true, but back in my day we had 4X4 air-conditioning and we all survived. For the youngsters in the crowd 4X4 air-conditioning was 4 windows with the glass rolled down. Even the PU had 4X4 although the capacity was somewhat diminished. Back then wing windows opened and you could direct the flow into your face.
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That is true, but back in my day we had 4X4 air-conditioning and we all survived. For the youngsters in the crowd 4X4 air-conditioning was 4 windows with the glass rolled down. Even the PU had 4X4 although the capacity was somewhat diminished. Back then wing windows opened and you could direct the flow into your face.
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In the mid 70s we called that a 2/55.
 

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2X55, 4X65, 4X4 it had lots of names. But it worked. Of course the vehicle wasn't as quite as they are now, but then there was pretty much only AM radio to listen to anyway.
 

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Question is: Will whoever attempts to install the wheels on the vehicle actually be able to get to the point of finding out that the 2003 wheels won't clear the 2012 brakes?
(Compare the info from the two links in post #4 for a clue to the answer.)
I would be the one swapping the wheels. However, based on the fact that the 2003 wheels won't clear the brakes on the 2012, I won't bother trying it, so we won't know how far I would get. I'm not surprised this won't work. I have lots of ideas, not all of them are good ones. :)
 

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I would be the one swapping the wheels. However, based on the fact that the 2003 wheels won't clear the brakes on the 2012, I won't bother trying it, so we won't know how far I would get. I'm not surprised this won't work. I have lots of ideas, not all of them are good ones. :)
Seriously, if you must buy tires, My Sumitomo HTR AS P02 are serving me well. We got 65k out of our last set on a Honda Crosstour. Good for 2 very hot summers.
 

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If you are financially in a bind, a person may see this as a possible solution. The OP was wise enough to ask first. That is the key point.
Just wondering if you noticed that the bolt circle diameters of the 2003 and 2012 wheels are different.
 

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The wheel bolt circles are different 2003 vs. 2012.

They won't fit.
 
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