Bolt - 2006 Honda Odyssey (EX)
Has your driving style changed? If you're stepping on the gas more than you were previously that would cause a difference. Generally the difference is a loss of 1 or 2 at most.
Thanks for your input. In this particular case, I would say the driving style and other road factors such as traffic, load, etc. were also the same. Maybe I was more aware of the tachometer/speedometer. ECO mode was in, but that is also always on. What I did notice that at the red lights and exits off the highway, the “green eco” indicator bar at top of the bar was white. Maybe due to all 6 cylinders running while at a stop vs. 3.Has your driving style changed? If you're stepping on the gas more than you were previously that would cause a difference. Generally the difference is a loss of 1 or 2 at most.
We haven't seen that with our 2022 model. I don't have any instrumented testing, controlling for variables, or anything like that...but I have about 14k miles on the car and I'd say that about half of them were with VCM enabled and half with VCM disabled. Our perceived (again, not controlled for variables) fuel economy is definitely lower with VCM disabled, but it's not by much. I'd say somewhere between 5 and 10%.Those who have installed a S-VCM or variant - are you seeing a reduction in MPG of 3.5 to 4 less?
That's exactly how I look at it. When you do the math a slight dip in MPG is virtually nothing in the grand scheme of things over the life of a vehicle.We drive about 10k miles per year on average. And I think our overall fuel economy has dropped from somewhere around 22 mpg to perhaps 21 mpg. The maths say that's about 21 additional gallons consumed each year with VCM disabled. So...60...70 bucks...somewhere in there. The cost of the device itself (I have the original VCMuzzler) was $90. So the total cost penalty, for us, for disabling the VCM is $90 + $70/year...or nearly $800 after 10 years.
For us, it's definitely not without cost. But it's also not without benefit.
Now that we're in a separate thread that's not a poll, can you describe more what this feels like? As I had said earlier, I haven't been able to perceive any consistent difference with how the car drives when decelerating (with the 9-speed). The engine braking, downshift timing, scheduling, feel, etc...it all feels about the same before-and-after VCM muzzling. What are the things you feel as 6-speed owners? I've read the comments several times about deceleration feeling smoother, and am wondering what the behavior changes are.That downshift to stop signs was driving us crazy.
So I'm not the only one? My wife will get 15-16 with the Pilot around town and I jump in and all the sudden it's 17-18 over the course of a weekend driving the same areas.Sorry, I'm not trying to drag this out but... I can get about 3mpg more out of my car just by having me drive and and not my wife. There are just too many variables to really sweat a MPG or 2.
Based on my week of driving with VCM disabled in my 2022 Pilot, I would say the driving experience is more consistent now although there is not much a big of difference. Still too early to judge.So it felt like a real drag with VCM enabled and operating, but with VCM disabled, it felt like the car would just freewheel as it coasted? I suppose the engine braking would be ONLY during VCM operation, right? So it'd feel more or less normal during deceleration when the engine was cold...like before it warmed up beyond 167*F? That's interesting.