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More random observations:

1) dealer salesman is a huge fan of Brake Hold. I tried it and I can see how it could be useful but my muscle memory of just holding the brake when I stop and go is so ingrained that I haven't really gelled with Brake Hold

2) Auto Start Stop isn't that intrusive on the vehicle but still a bit annoying to me to have that little lag when the stoplight turns and the motor needs to fire up. One thing I noticed is you can come to a stoplight and stop completely with Moderate brake pressure and then a notice pops on the dash saying Auto Stop Temporarily Disabled Depress Brake Fully to Enable (I am paraphrasing but something like that). So when you apply more pressure to the brakes then the A turns green and the engine shuts off. So if you are moderate on your braking you can still travel around the burbs without triggering Auto Stop (yes I know we can all just press the Disable button too)

3) mpg pretty horrible at this point! After 200ish miles, I am showing 13.5mpg. I still love the car and wasn't buying it for its efficiency but that is way below the reported City EPA number on the advertising

4) again another thing that is cool and new to me...the little voice control button on the left side of wheel. I can press it and then Android Auto voice pops up and I can say stuff like Text Daughter Blah Blah and it has great voice recognition and does it. As Borat would say, Very Niiiice

5). I also love the little scroll wheels on the steering wheel especially the right side one that scrolls through various displays that appear inside the speedometer. Don't ever need to go up to the main screen and tap on Settings etc just to see things like tire pressure or fuel efficiency etc
 

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1- Agree with you on the brake hold! Not for me.
2- Have to give pedal pressure a try, you can pre-emptively "wake" the car up with a slight steering wheel movement, I do this because I hate the lag as well.
3- I think you need more time, what's you average speed as indicated in the trip computer? Around town I'm achieving about 18.5mpg. Traveling soon, will get real hwy mpg and report.
4- Cool or not cool, when my wife called me, her face popped up on the digital dash, a bit cool and a bit freaky!
5- Love scroll wheel also, I especially dig the screen that shows the power going to each wheel. It changes based on the drive mode your in too, switch to snow mode, all wheels seem to get the same power, normal mode, all four wheels get power, or not, depends on how heavy you are on the accelerator. Once up to speed, front wheels only. Plenty of cool stuff on this vehicle!
 

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4- Cool or not cool, when my wife called me, her face popped up on the digital dash, a bit cool and a bit freaky!
5- Love scroll wheel also, I especially dig the screen that shows the power going to each wheel. It changes based on the drive mode your in too, switch to snow mode, all wheels seem to get the same power, normal mode, all four wheels get power, or not, depends on how heavy you are on the accelerator. Once up to speed, front wheels only. Plenty of cool stuff on this vehicle!
I haven't spent much time on that wheels power thing but I would love to see it in action the next time we have some really snowy streets (and to that point I look forward to seeing the IVTM4 in action)

Even freakier was that your wife's picture popped up on my Pilot's screen! 😳

Seriously though was that on Android or Carplay? I haven't gotten to see that yet but would be funny. Next will be a picture of my wife's face popping up on the dash telling me to slow down every time I exceed the speed limit by more that 5mph!
 

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Android, if your contact has a profile picture it will show up. It doesn't randomly just assign some woman's face to your wife's phone number, that would be weird:)
Yeah I was gonna say I could always assign a picture of Margot Robbie or something to my wife's contact info. I may be more likely to pick up the call haha
 

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At some point I will run out on the highway at 80+ mph and see if I can get a decibal reading on a smartphone app, and then will do the same for my 2010 Odyssey just for fun
So I had the opportunity to get out on the highway today. Heading out there was a lot of wind noise as we were heading into a pretty strong west wind. Using a sound meter app on my phone the dB rating was generally in the 78-80 range. Coming home later this afternoon it was quieter and the dB was in the 74-76 range. Next time I have a chance to try in the Odyssey I will compare.
 

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So I had the opportunity to get out on the highway today. Heading out there was a lot of wind noise as we were heading into a pretty strong west wind. Using a sound meter app on my phone the dB rating was generally in the 78-80 range. Coming home later this afternoon it was quieter and the dB was in the 74-76 range. Next time I have a chance to try in the Odyssey I will compare.
Yes. Exactly the same as mine, used Db Decibel X app in my phone I got 70-80 range while driving 70+ mph speed in highway. It’s quieter if 55-60. Saw some youtube videos that tested the road noise and they only got 59db in 55mph speed.
 

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Decibel ratings are extremely subjective. Take for instance a concrete road, they are literally ribbed and are extremely noisy. I'm assuming we're all driving on the same tires? I'll try to take out my actual dB meter (not phone app) and see what I achieve on a couple of our roads. I do know the Pilot is one of the quietest vehicles I've been in/owned.
 

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Yes. Exactly the same as mine, used Db Decibel X app in my phone I got 70-80 range while driving 70+ mph speed in highway. It’s quieter if 55-60. Saw some youtube videos that tested the road noise and they only got 59db in 55mph speed.
I think you might be referring to Car Confections. They are one of the few reviewers that use a decibel meter. I would venture to guess that an app on a phone has the potential to report a very disparate rating compared to the meter they use. I'm sure it depends on the app and the microphone on the phone itself and calibration, etc.
 

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Decibel ratings are extremely subjective. Take for instance a concrete road, they are literally ribbed and are extremely noisy. I'm assuming we're all driving on the same tires? I'll try to take out my actual dB meter (not phone app) and see what I achieve on a couple of our roads. I do know the Pilot is one of the quietest vehicles I've been in/owned.
Yeah for sure. Not saying this is scientific test at all. Whenever I get out with the Odyssey I likely won't have the same wind blowing from the west etc.

I do agree that the Pilot is nice and smooth driving and pretty quiet, and seems quieter than my Odyssey. Not sure about my Accord - it might be pretty quiet too but it may have a more aerodynamic shape.

I had the opportunity to "open up" the Pilot on some more open country roads this afternoon too. It is quick! Fun to drive.
 

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Another early morning trip to sports tournament. Android Auto is awesome! Really. Except when it's not. By that I mean all of a sudden it just lost connection to the car a couple miles before my highway exit. But then after an annoying minute of my attention being distracted it just connected again and the map popped up. Usually it stays connected although this has happened before. As it is wireless I don't really have any way of knowing WHY or how to avoid it.

Also I really like the Android voice command. Really slick. Works from the steering wheel button, but for some reason this morning after one use then the next time I pressed the steering button to ask a second question it then wanted to access the Honda voice commands rather than Android Auto. I could still press the little mic button on AA though.

Gremlins still....
 

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Another early morning trip to sports tournament. Android Auto is awesome! Really. Except when it's not. By that I mean all of a sudden it just lost connection to the car a couple miles before my highway exit. But then after an annoying minute of my attention being distracted it just connected again and the map popped up. Usually it stays connected although this has happened before. As it is wireless I don't really have any way of knowing WHY or how to avoid it.

Also I really like the Android voice command. Really slick. Works from the steering wheel button, but for some reason this morning after one use then the next time I pressed the steering button to ask a second question it then wanted to access the Honda voice commands rather than Android Auto. I could still press the little mic button on AA though.

Gremlins still....
Regarding the voice assistant through AA/CarPlay - if you just tap the button it will trigger the Honda one but if you hold the button for a second or two it should always trigger the one tied to your phone.
 

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Regarding the voice assistant through AA/CarPlay - if you just tap the button it will trigger the Honda one but if you hold the button for a second or two it should always trigger the one tied to your phone.
Hmm thanks. I will have to try that. I thought my button press was the same but certainly could have been a tap vs a hold. Still getting trained on Android voice. The recognition is amazing. What I don't know is if it is still listening to me or not when it says "so do you want me to navigate to McDonalds?". Seems like no and then I end up pressing the screen to say Go. Do you have to press that steering wheel button every time you want it to hear your voice? I need to play around with it some more.

One sort of odd thing is how you cannot do any search on Google Maps on your phone while AA is running, but then you can search on the car screen but if you want a keyboard then that comes through your phone. I don't see a keyboard popping on the car screen.
 

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1- Agree with you on the brake hold! Not for me.
2- Have to give pedal pressure a try, you can pre-emptively "wake" the car up with a slight steering wheel movement, I do this because I hate the lag as well.
3- I think you need more time, what's you average speed as indicated in the trip computer? Around town I'm achieving about 18.5mpg. Traveling soon, will get real hwy mpg and report.
4- Cool or not cool, when my wife called me, her face popped up on the digital dash, a bit cool and a bit freaky!
5- Love scroll wheel also, I especially dig the screen that shows the power going to each wheel. It changes based on the drive mode your in too, switch to snow mode, all wheels seem to get the same power, normal mode, all four wheels get power, or not, depends on how heavy you are on the accelerator. Once up to speed, front wheels only. Plenty of cool stuff on this vehicle!
I haven't tried the brake hold yet but in the Pilot; I use it occasionally in my Accord. Sometimes if I'm sitting in a drive thru line it's nice to just use that.

I tried out the Trail mode yesterday going up a steep (30ish degree), unpaved hill and also like the torque display, pretty cool!

I only have ~400 miles on the Pilot and not been getting great MPG yet either (mid teens) but thinking once the vehicle is more broken in I'll see some better results.
 

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Continuing the random musings.....

BLACK LUG NUTS

Just go at them with my normal impact socket? Do they get beaten up noticeably? I have done some quick searches and people talk about a special socket with a softer interior (maybe it is polyurethane or something) but I am wondering how that can really work and still effectively torque and untorque these guys at 94 lb ft.

Since the front face of these won't get touched, it's not the biggest deal I guess if the hex insides get scuffed a little over time but just curious
 

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Hi, soft socket are "soft" on the outside. I am most concerned with anyone other than myself touching the lugs on this car. I picture the impact going towards the hole and the operator using the taper to guide it in. I will be more careful than anyone else!

Anyway, I will be sure to ask/tell them to take care of the wheels if dealer or tire shop has anthing to do with it.
 
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