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My son said that there was a crash test done on SUV's on a recent episode of NBC dateline( or some show of that nature). Is this true, and if so how did the pilot do. I would like to know how it stacked up against the other SUV's. Thanks for any info
 

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It was an IIHS test of some small SUV's (not the Pilot), of which the Honda CR-V earned top scores of any small SUV. This on top of the 5-stars front driver/passenger/side-front/side-rear it has already scored in the NHTSA crash test.

http://www.iihs.org/news_releases/2002/pr070902.htm

The Pilot has not been crash-tested yet by the NHTSA or IIHS (they perform different tests and all are important).

However, Honda has stated that the Pilot will get 5-stars in the NHTSA crash tests and a "Good" rating in the IIHS crash test. Honda does extensive computer simulation and internal crash testing on their new models, which have been designed for crashworthiness. E.g. in the tests done to date, the MDX, Civic, RSX, and now the CR-V have done at least as well as Honda has predicted. Thus there is no guarantee, but it's highly likely the Pilot will do very well indeed.
 

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Ummm

I believe the current medium - large size SUV crach test winner is the Highlander for 2002 but I think it will change for 2003.

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The Latest Crash Test for the MDX

There are no 2003 vehicle crash tests for SUVs posted on the NHTSA web site. Attached is the test for the 2002 MDX:
 

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Re: Ummm

PrG said:
I believe the current medium - large size SUV crach test winner is the Highlander for 2002 but I think it will change for 2003.

PrG
The Highlander hasn't been tested by NHTSA yet, but it has been tested by IIHS. It did well, but some other SUV's did better.

In the Insurance Institute of Highway Safety crash test, the highest-scoring small SUV to date is the Honda CR-V, with the Subaru Forester in second place:

http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/summary_smsuv.htm

In their tests of mid-sized SUV's, the highest ranking vehicle is the BMW X5, with the MDX second:

http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/summary_midsuv.htm

The Highlander weighs significantly less than some of the other SUV's that scored higher than it. That likely means that the Highlander would do worse than than those other vehicles in a collision with, say, a heavier 4,800 lb vehicle.

IIHS runs an offset crash test, which is more demanding on the vehicle's structure The government (NHTSA) runs a full-frontal crash test, which places more emphasis on the restraints. NHTSA also runs a side-impact crash test. Both the Pilot and MDX are expected to get 5 stars in the NHTSA's tests.

Here are NHTSA results for mid-sized SUV's tested (2002 model year):

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/testing/ncap/Cars/2002SUVs.html
 

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PrG said:
You must be a lawyer ....
Nah. I don't mess around with safety aspects and think people should have all the information available to them. There are too many folks out there easily swayed by deceptive safety advertising and Internet claims on the relative safety of their vehicles. E.g. folks who take only positive safety comments out of context when their vehicles simply don't perform as well on crash tests. The easy question to ask them is, if their spouse and, say, a twelve-year-old child riding in the front passenger seat, is destined to be involved in a serious front-end collision, would they rather he/she be in the 5-star/Good vehicle, or the 3-star/Acceptable vehicle? :eek:
 

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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...

5 STAR ?

Is this a trick question ... :confused:

PrG
 

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Ok I feel bad for my levity over a serious issue ...

You're absolutely right ... there is no question what the answer would unanimously be ...

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PrG said:
I believe the current medium - large size SUV crach test winner is the Highlander for 2002 but I think it will change for 2003.
That brought back a memory ... does anyone remember when Mercedes brought out their SUV and it failed miserably in the tests? If I recall correctly it flipped going around a corner.

Anyone else remember that?
 

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Nope...
Only remember MB "A" class sedan (looks like a mini-ML) failing the "moose test". Lifted or rolled when performing moose avoidance drill.
 

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If I had to avoid a moose while driving, I'd probably have something fail too. But let's leave my bowels out of this. :D

I do find it interesting when manufacturers state what they expect to get when testing is done. I'm wondering how closely their internal testing is to what government/independent organizations perform. Of course, who would ever come out and say "we expect the test ratings to be poor on our new vehicle."

Chris
 
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