[bdozer1965]

How is it that Toyota is switching to a Turbo 4 for the Highlander/RX350 to meet emissions requirements but the V-6 in the 4Runner evidently still can as well as the Honda J series V6s?

 

[cintocrunch]

Got a link to what you are referring to? I posted the link to the Highlander getting a facelift that dropped the V6 for the 2.4T, but this seems to be the path many automakers transition to in their vehicles for greater power and sometimes greater fuel economy.

It sounds like a new generation Tacoma may be on the horizon, maybe the 4Runner will finally get a new generation.

Personally, I love the 4Runner. It may not be economical but it is a bastion of what I consider to be the golden era of cars - enough tech to make them super reliable (fuel injection, etc.) and nothing more.

Edit: Here's the link:

2023 Toyota Highlander - Midcycle Refresh Kills the V6

So Toyota has officially killed the V6 in the Highlander... thoughts? Personally, I don't think any turbo-4 sounds or feels as refined as a healthy V6 and the mileage benefit is for a very narrow use case in pure highway driving. Around town, getting 4,500 lbs up to speed requires boost, and a...

www.piloteers.org

Edit 2: Realized I never provided my response to your question... I am assuming they sell many more Highlanders so the corporate mileage gains will be higher on a Highlander and they will certainly get less notice or care from the purchasers of these vehicles.

 

[bdozer1965]

Got a link to what you are referring to? I posted the link to the Highlander getting a facelift that dropped the V6 for the 2.4T, but this seems to be the path many automakers transition to in their vehicles for greater power and sometimes greater fuel economy.

It sounds like a new generation Tacoma may be on the horizon, maybe the 4Runner will finally get a new generation.

Personally, I love the 4Runner. It may not be economical but it is a bastion of what I consider to be the golden era of cars - enough tech to make them super reliable (fuel injection, etc.) and nothing more.

Edit: Here's the link:

2023 Toyota Highlander - Midcycle Refresh Kills the V6

So Toyota has officially killed the V6 in the Highlander... thoughts? Personally, I don't think any turbo-4 sounds or feels as refined as a healthy V6 and the mileage benefit is for a very narrow use case in pure highway driving. Around town, getting 4,500 lbs up to speed requires boost, and a...

www.piloteers.org

Edit 2: Realized I never provided my response to your question... I am assuming they sell many more Highlanders so the corporate mileage gains will be higher on a Highlander and they will certainly get less notice or care from the purchasers of these vehicles.

The Pilot is getting long in the tooth, could easily get 5 more years out of it but I'm concerned about what will be available at that time(unless of course I go used). I'm strongly considering adding a second 22 v-6 HL before that door closes, which is approaching very quickly.

I LOVE my Pilot and am also considering a Ridgeline but it's disappointing that Honda can't run dual fuel rails like Toyota and Ford do and it seems like Honda's quality is suffering lately.

 

[TexAg91]

How is it that Toyota is switching to a Turbo 4 for the Highlander/RX350 to meet emissions requirements but the V-6 in the 4Runner evidently still can as well as the Honda J series V6s?

Honda uses VCM (Variable cylinder management) in the V6, Toyota does not.

 

[cintocrunch]

The Pilot is getting long in the tooth, could easily get 5 more years out of it but I'm concerned about what will be available at that time(unless of course I go used). I'm strongly considering adding a second 22 v-6 HL before that door closes, which is approaching very quickly.

I LOVE my Pilot and am also considering a Ridgeline but it's disappointing that Honda can't run dual fuel rails like Toyota and Ford do and it seems like Honda's quality is suffering lately.

Only you can determine your risk tolerance, though we are seeing that the 2nd gen Pilots are very long lived vehicles with a little care and the VCM disabled.

I've owned multiple pickups and I've never heard someone mention dual fuel rails as a reason they did or did not buy a certain one, what is the benefit of this feature?

 

[bdozer1965]

Only you can determine your risk tolerance, though we are seeing that the 2nd gen Pilots are very long lived vehicles with a little care and the VCM disabled.

I've owned multiple pickups and I've never heard someone mention dual fuel rails as a reason they did or did not buy a certain one, what is the benefit of this feature?

Cinto the port injection operates under certain conditions(i.e. I'm guessing idling or lower speeds) to wash the valves and reduce carbon build up.

 

[bdozer1965]

Honda uses VCM (Variable cylinder management) in the V6, Toyota does not.

Good point on possibly why Honda doesn't seem to be ditching their V6s quite yet but this was also one of the factors that steered me to Toyota's V6.

 

[cintocrunch]

Cinto the port injection operates under certain conditions(i.e. I'm guessing idling or lower speeds) to wash the valves and reduce carbon build up.

Oh, you are talking about the duel injection D4-S system, where it uses both direct and port injection. I agree, I do like this tech and it seems to be trouble free by the manufacturers that have implemented it. I do agree, would like to have seen Honda implement that.