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TheWorm said:
Yea, there's a thread on the MDX board that's just getting started (well, actually "revisited" since the initial 5/5 post):

http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7884
Thanks, Worm. Over there, someone speculates that the 2003 MDX has a revised front/rear weight distribution, due in part to a new compact transmission. The more recently tested MDX was 111 lbs heavier which may be part of some additional structure changes and/or more soundproofing.

Before I buy a 2004 Pilot, I am very interested in any more light people can shed on why the later MDX dropped in the frontal impact test. Will the new MDX transmission also be included in the newer Pilots? Any other changes in the MDX showing up in newer Pilots?
 

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robrecht said:
Was the MDX downgraded from a 5-star rating to a 4-star rating for driver and passenger in a frontal impact crash???
If MDX down grade from 5 to 4 stars, then the Pilot will get it all FIVE-STAR (5-STAR):p
 

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Don't forget, results are based on computer simulation and not actual tests, so unless the Pilot's configuration has changed for 2003 (as did the MDX) the results probably will not change.
 

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Torquemada said:
Don't forget, results are based on computer simulation and not actual tests, so unless the Pilot's configuration has changed for 2003 (as did the MDX) the results probably will not change.
I knew the roll-over ratings were based on calculations of weight, height, width, etc, but I thought the NHTSA crash test results were based on actual crash tests.
 

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robrecht said:


I knew the roll-over ratings were based on calculations of weight, height, width, etc, but I thought the NHTSA crash test results were based on actual crash tests.
That's correct.
 

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robrecht said:


I knew the roll-over ratings were based on calculations of weight, height, width, etc, but I thought the NHTSA crash test results were based on actual crash tests.
Yes, NHTSA does actual head-on crash and side impact tests:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/Cars/2194.html

I don't understand what's taking NHTSA so long to rate the Pilot for rollover.

The IIHS does offset front crash tests, but the Pilot hasn't been tested yet. The MDX did well:
http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/summary_midsuv.htm
 

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tatng said:
According to NHTSA's test result, Pilot is actually safer than the MDX!!

http://www.nhtsa.org/NCAP/Cars/2003SUVs.html

-Tat
Actually, the Pilot and CR-Vs are the only SUVs to get all five star ratings although not all SUVs had all four tests. I did a quick scan of the cars and amazingly only the Accord 2 door, the Subaru Forester, the Lincoln Town Car, the Volvo S80, and the Civic 2 door with SAB also had all five star crash ratings. (Mercedes S class wasn't tested, but the E class only got four stars for frontal crashes:confused:). Of course the big weakness of SUVs is the rollover resistance, and hopefully the Pilot will match the MDX with four stars.
 

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krygny said:
I don't understand what's taking NHTSA so long to rate the Pilot for rollover.
gatoreng was told verbally by the NHTSA crash testing lab that the Pilot has now, in fact, been rollover rated and that it received 4 stars.
http://www.honda-pilot.org/forums/s...73109#post73109

Although NHTSA has not confirmed this in writing, I was told the same thing by a weary government guy who was still returning phone calls at 6:40 pm last night to citizens such as me! Way to go NHTSA! Way to go, Pilot!
 

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robrecht said:
gatoreng was told verbally by the NHTSA crash testing lab that the Pilot has now, in fact, been rollover rated and that it received 4 stars.
http://www.honda-pilot.org/forums/s...73109#post73109

Although NHTSA has not confirmed this in writing, I was told the same thing by a weary government guy who was still returning phone calls at 6:40 pm last night to citizens such as me! Way to go NHTSA! Way to go, Pilot!
NHTSA has now updated their website to show that the Pilot has indeed received a 4-star rollover rating, a distinction shared only by a handful of other crossover "SUVs" (MDX, Murano, Aztek 4x4). Note that, unlike the Pilot, none of these also have all 5-star ratings in the NHTSA crash tests now that the '03 MDX has been downgraded. AFAIK no minivan has surpassed this yet.

Here's the link for the NHTSA announcement:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/nhtsa/announce/press/pressdisplay.cfm?year=2003&filename=pr41-03.html

Here's a link to compare all of the 2003 model SUVs that have been tested:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/Cars/2003SUVs.html
 

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Great News on the Roll-Over rating! Overall, all 5's and one 4 is fantastic for an SUV. Even beats the Volvo, a brand famous for safety. I'm printing the test results for my re-sale file, but I don't think I'll need it as I'm planning on keeping the Pilot until the wheels fall off.:cool:
 
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