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I drove my wife's Pilot over to the Toyota dealer today because I was delivering some wireless phones displays and to my amazement, I saw that they had a new 4Runner in front!:eek:

I did'nt realize they would be out already. The General Manager of the dealership is a good friend and he always likes to talk **** about my Honda!:p His sales folks seemed very impressed by the Pilot and asked if they could look at it. I said "sure." As I looked over the new 4Runner, I glanced back at the Pilot and there must have been nealry 10 Toyota sales folks gawking at the Pilot.:p :p :D

The GM said, "let's go for a ride in the 4Runner." So, I thought, what the hell! The V8 is very smooth and the 4Runner is quiet but the old problems of the 4Runner still exist (IMO) with the small interior and cramped dash and very little headroom. I was unimpressed with the overall functionality of the interior. All of the compartments seemed too small for anything to truly fit. The middle armrest has a small flip down part that I am guessing could double as a writing area but it seems awkward to use. The rear seats folding is just pitiful. You have to lift the bottom seat cushion first and then pull the tab to put the seat backs down. After that, the rear cargo area looked very small. A salesman boasted that a sheet of plywood could fit in the back :rolleyes: :p but it looks doubtful. The rear seat has a fold down armrest that doubles as a drink holder and slide out tray, it really did'nt look bad but I thought it looked cheap for some reason. Not sure, really.

The coolest part was the addition of these convex mirrors molded into the rear window braces. From the inside of the 4Runner, you could easily see what was coming beside you before you backed into it. Another plus was that it had Michelin Cross Terrain tires. But I thought the rims were a little :8: The rear of the 4Runner is something else too and the use of all that grey body cladding was just nasty.

I never got a chance to glance at the price but I'm sure it was well over the price of a Pilot and IMO, not worth it. Makes me happier that we chose a Pilot!:)
 

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Great post, airgate. Very interesting. We had been waiting for the much anticipated, and loooooong overdue 4Runner (having owned a '99) but jumped on the Pilot when it came along first. With 2kids+dog the Pilot's roominess is well received and utilized.
That mirror feature sounds interesting, (& I will forever miss the power tailgate window feature unique to the 4Runner- but not as much as the dog misses it).
 

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I think you are right on with the 4-runner. I saw one in the lot the other day and I about fell over when I looked at the sticker. $39,000 plus dealer add ons. Whew. You also have to figure that with the V-8 it will be hard pressed to get over 15MPG overall. I guess if you are serious about going offroad or have a load to haul it could be justified. I do feel that it would be a good alternative to the domestic SUV's if only because of the reliability and resale which is fantastic.
 
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