Well I have a couple hundred miles now on my new Defenders and I can say they feel softer and quieter than the Duelers. I like the ride but it looks like they are gonna steal a MPG or two from what I can tell so far from what the Duelers were giving me. Its a trade off I guess. But at least I feel like this 2017 Pilot EX now has an almost acceptable noise level. Hopefully the new tires will last as long as the Duelers at 67000 miles. Sucks that gas has gone up 30%.