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Does anybody have an idea as to why you can't get the Honda navigation system installed in a non-leather vehicle? It looks like all they do is move the radio down underneath the climate control system and remove the small storage space between same control system and the 'not an ashtray'. Nothing else looks different?? Is it in the wiring harness?
 

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The NAV system should be able to install into any version of the EXs. Again I am speculating from passing experiences with NAV devices, but the display in the dah is nothing more than a display. The brains of the NAV unit should be a separate box located somewhere in the car.

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You'd Think

PrG,

That's what I would have thought. Asked my service advisor today and he said it's not possible, something about the dash not being able to mold around the system. It really looks nothing more than dropping the radio down underneath. Can't be that difficult?? Really don't want to go aftermarket either.
 

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Only time will tell ...

I think there are too many uncertainties out there that only time will really tell ... like what will fit where and whether Honda will offer the RES or NAV as aftermarket options ... I still believe its possible but I am not an engineer just an enthusiast ... I guess we'll just have to, for now, live with these uncertainties and be the pioneers for all the PILOT owners to come ... Perhaps one of these days I'll be brave enough to rip into the dash and play around with what really can and can't fit in there ... Until then I just worry about keeping the new car smell from escaping out of the car. As for the NAV ... never having been a proponent of NAV systems ... since I have never had a problem of pulling out a map and getting to where I need to go ... and having driven across the United States twice ... I think there is still something to be said about those late nights pulling into th gas station, donut in mouth, coffee in hand, drooling on a map unfurled in all its splendor across the dash, and figuring out where to turn next ... Now a TV tuner or DVD screen in my dash that's a winner in my heart ...

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My dealer offered the RES as a dealer installed option on the LX. I assume, perhaps incorrectly, that he would have also offered the NAV system. I have the EX-L w/o the RES, but plan on returning in the future to have it installed.
 

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Dano said:
My dealer offered the RES as a dealer installed option on the LX. I assume, perhaps incorrectly, that he would have also offered the NAV system. I have the EX-L w/o the RES, but plan on returning in the future to have it installed.
But is it the same RES that comes in the EX-L RES? I'll bet it's the iRES system that is an aftermarket system sold through Honda dealers back when Honda had no RES models to offer. I still see the iRES signs around dealers today.

That doesn't mean the iRES is any worse or better than the factory installed RES, just proabably not as well integrated. On the plus side, it costs quite a bit less than getting the factory RES and I think it plays video tapes.

To get the factory installed NAV or RES, the dealer would have to order the parts and probably many adapters (that move the radio head unit, etc). But I would think when they try to order it, unless your VIN matches an EX-L RES or EX-L NAV it won't even let them. Anyone know if they can?
 

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The answer is:

Product bundeling and control of the number of models to be produced.
If you want to be able to order any option on any model, I think GM will do it for you. :)
 

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RES system

Dealer said it would be the same as factory, maybe he was just messing with me. . .
 

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Re: RES system

Dano said:
Dealer said it would be the same as factory, maybe he was just messing with me. . .
I think he is. I may be wrong and Honda will sell him the RES factory parts, I just think that is the case.

When we were looking at an Ody a couple of years ago when the RES first came out, they had an EX-L on the lot that they told us they could put in the RES, that it was the exact same as the factory unit. I asked them to show me. We went back to part dept. and they showed me the iRES and tried to repeatedly tell me it was the same. It's not.

The giveaway should be the price. The RES version of the EX-L is $1500 more than the plain EX-L. If he was to order the RES parts separate, they should add up to a bit more, probably $2000 plus labor. If the price the dealer is giving you is less than $1500, then that should be a tip that it is not the same as the RES in the EX-L RES.

I hope you don't think I'm trying to discourage you. We all hate to see a dealer pull some shenanagins and give you something worth a lot less but at premium price. The sad truth is that dealers lie all the time. And I don't think the iRES is bad at all, but the price should be consideralbly lower than $1500, probably less than $800. That's what you can get a good aftermarket system for.

You might want to shoot Tim (www.hondacuraworld.com) an email or call to ask him if they can really order a factory RES system and install it on an EX-L. He will definitely tell you the truth.
 

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thanks

I think I'll email Tim and ask him. thanks for the advice. The price was $1,600 at the dealer, plus install. I have the EX-L, so it does fit the requirements. Would be a shame if it doesn't, since that was a selling point for me picking it off the lot, rather than waiting a few months.

Don't need the system right away, and am still considering some aftermarket systems which are improving all the time. Still, those cordless headphones are nice. . .
 

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Tim said the dealer probably lied to me about installing the factory RES at the shop. That's a shame. I probably would have waited to for an equipped model. Any suggestions on how hard I should go after the dealer on this one? Or was it my own naivete'?
 

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My dealer offered the iRES system at (drum roll please) $1600! I think your dealer may just be confused that it is actually two different systems. They look close to the same and install VERY close, if not exactly the same way. I've heard good things about the iRES it's just that for that same money (and ususally less) you can get a great after market system usually with a bigger screen.

I'd still like to get a Navi that fits into the same space as the factory.
 

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yeah, I saw an audiovox system that mounts on the roof, dvd is also up top. they wanted like 1500. gonna keep looking
 
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