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I searched for a thread that might answer this question, ans even RTFM'ed the online manual, and couldn't find the answer.

I'm going to get a real lug wrench to carry in the Pilot. What size should it be? Big enough to do the job is a correct, but incomplete, answer.:D
 

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jay said:
I searched for a thread that might answer this question, ans even RTFM'ed the online manual, and couldn't find the answer.

I'm going to get a real lug wrench to carry in the Pilot. What size should it be? Big enough to do the job is a correct, but incomplete, answer.:D
The one I use is a 20" - has a different metric size on each of the 4 ends (including the 19mm for the Pilot).

Works great!!

HTH

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The above is the one I keep in the garage - I carry a similar one IN the below floor storage area that is a 14". 3 metric ends and the 4th end has a flat blade (for hubcap removal).
 

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Thanks, colorider. If you were just going to get one to carry in the Pilot, would you get the smaller one and put it in the headrest storage, or the larger one and just leave it in the cargo tray in the back?
 

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Thanks, colorider. If you were just going to get one to carry in the Pilot, would you get the smaller one and put it in the headrest storage, or the larger one and just leave it in the cargo tray in the back?
I don't like tools (or anything heavy) that are not stowed properly - so I would probably opt for one that will fit in the storage area (14"). You cannot get as much leverage, but still better than than the typical OEM lug wrench. I never stow my headrests (head-restraints) in this area anyway.

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I don't like tools (or anything heavy) that are not stowed properly - so I would probably opt for one that will fit in the storage area (14"). You cannot get as much leverage, but still better than than the typical OEM lug wrench. I never stow my headrests (head-restraints) in this area anyway.

HTH
I was thinking the same thing about securing it. Guess I'll get the smaller one and put it in the floor storage with the jumper cables.:p
 

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Lug Nut Wrench

The 20 inch 4 bar lug wrench I have had for years scratched the Pilots wheels when I removed them and I didn't notice it until I had them all off. I guess the outside diameter of the forged lug head is just a tad to large but it did not feel that way when I was using it. Maybe I slightly moved the wrench laterally when spinning it but I sure didn't think so as the head was snug on the lug nut.
 

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jay said:
I was thinking the same thing about securing it. Guess I'll get the smaller one and put it in the floor storage with the jumper cables.:p
Yep - plenty of room there for jumper cables, 12v-110v converter, drawbar, lug wrench, gloves, tow-rope and a few other goodies!!

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I got a 14 inch lug wrench with 17, 19, 21, and 23 mm heads at Auto Zone for $6.88. It's in the floor storage as I type. With any luck, that's where it will stay.:p
 

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jay said:
I got a 14 inch lug wrench with 17, 19, 21, and 23 mm heads at Auto Zone for $6.88. It's in the floor storage as I type. With any luck, that's where it will stay.:p
Fantastic!!!! :awais: :awais:
 

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What's wrong with the factory wrench?

In over 30 years of driving, I've only changed 5 flat tires and two of those were in my garage.
So my question is, what's wrong with the lug wrench that comes with Pilot? Is it that wimpy (maybe I better check!!)

I carry a 4-way in my pickup because I pull 3 different trailers that all have different size lugnuts, but I also carry a small floor jack as well (in a large floor mounted toolbox). But for a car, I would think the factory supplied one would be suitable.
 

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Re: What's wrong with the factory wrench?

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In over 30 years of driving, I've only changed 5 flat tires and two of those were in my garage.
So my question is, what's wrong with the lug wrench that comes with Pilot? Is it that wimpy (maybe I better check!!)

I carry a 4-way in my pickup because I pull 3 different trailers that all have different size lugnuts, but I also carry a small floor jack as well (in a large floor mounted toolbox). But for a car, I would think the factory supplied one would be suitable.
I think it's that wimpy. No way to get any leverage on it.
 

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Re: What's wrong with the factory wrench?

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In over 30 years of driving, I've only changed 5 flat tires and two of those were in my garage.
So my question is, what's wrong with the lug wrench that comes with Pilot? Is it that wimpy (maybe I better check!!)

I carry a 4-way in my pickup because I pull 3 different trailers that all have different size lugnuts, but I also carry a small floor jack as well (in a large floor mounted toolbox). But for a car, I would think the factory supplied one would be suitable.
That's PARTIALLY why I carry the 4-way as I pull a utility trailer occasionally. Still, I just like a 4-way better all around for leverage over the typical auto lug wrench. I rotate my own tires on all my vehicles ever 5K miles and I use my 20" 4-way each time. Much faster IMO than using my impact wrench too - plus safer.

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The size lug wrench I use is "AAA". :D

But with the right tool, the size of your nuts doesn't matter:

<img src="http://gemini.tntech.edu/~slc3675/me361/mechlib/vgrip.jpg" alt="Vice Grips" />
 

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So if it's more leverage that you want, stick a piece of pipe in with the stock wrench. Now it's stowed away and you have just about doubled your leverage.

Corider: You need to get to work on that garage. My air hose is suspended from the ceiling on a rotating device so that I don't have to drag the hose around.
Throw a jack under both the front and the back, reach up and grab the impact and bingo all four wheels are off in no time!!

I plumbed my garage so that I have air in all four corners (two regulated, two not), and from the ceiling. The thing I built for the ceiling is very similar to a car wash. You can walk around a car and 175 PSI of "nut busten" pressure follow you around UGH! UGH! UGH! (I'm like Tim the tool man, you can never have too much power!!).
 

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Is it possible that more leverage is TOO much?

A longer wrench MIGHT allow you to torque the nuts too tight and may make them harder to get off or cause other problems.

I had no problems removing the lugs with the factory wrench the other day.
 

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krygny said:
The size lug wrench I use is "AAA". :D

But with the right tool, the size of your nuts doesn't matter:

<img src="http://gemini.tntech.edu/~slc3675/me361/mechlib/vgrip.jpg" alt="Vice Grips" />
Is that a "several sixteenths" or a "many millimeters" size?

:2:
 

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Is it possible that more leverage is TOO much?

A longer wrench MIGHT allow you to torque the nuts too tight and may make them harder to get off or cause other problems.

I had no problems removing the lugs with the factory wrench the other day.
Yes, it is possible. I have a fairly calibrated "feel" when using a 4-way to tighten the lug nuts - although often I will break out my torque wrench just to be sure. In either case, when properly torqued, it usually takes MORE torque to break the lug nuts loose due to the taper.

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With a star shaped wrench, it is easier to use a rotating motion rather than push downward very hard with the stock wrench and risk breaking the stud.
 

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I came across the coolest lug nut wrench, I had to buy it!

Whats cool about it?

First it's extendable, much like the Gorilla wrench previously refered to on this thread. It extends from 14" to 21". It has 1/2 " drive & it comes with four sockets: US(metric)
11/16"(17mm)
3/4" (19mm)
13/16"(21mm) &
7/8' (23mm)

It comes complete with a carry case.:4:
 

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