[6speedtranny]

I wanted to share my experience in removing this dealer installed 3rd party security system. A lot of people probably like this system however, it does not fit into my wants or needs category.

I do just want to say that if you attempt to remove this or a similar system I am not liable for anything that happens to your vehicle. If you are not familiar with 12v electrical systems you probably should watch a few youtube videos before you tackle this.

If you have one of these bad boys near your OBD2 port than you most likely have a KARR system installed.

The plug with my finger on it is the actual security device. It was zip tied to a bracket under the steering column and has a few wires branched off in different directions. If you can trace where they all go the removal will be cake.

The bulk of the system installs right at the fuze panel with wire taps and spade connectors. Just remove the spades and leave the wire taps. The installer drilled a screw into the hood latch release so there is now a small hole in mine.... thanks for that.

Next we trace a pair of wires over to the passenger side. For some reason the installer used butt connectors instead of wire taps. Thankfully there was enough wire left to cut out the butt connectors in the picture and splice my green wire back together.

This last shot is the 3 wire taps that infiltrate the drivers door harness. I recommend removing these 3 spades from the taps and then cutting the spades off the alarm harness. The installer routed the wires through a tight space and likely added the spades after routing through the door.

Thats the system removed. I haven't had any issue with operation of the vehicle since I have removed it. There may be "shock sensors" installed around the vehicle. If there are, they were not connected directly to the main system, maybe wireless, maybe a lie. Either way the system is gone. Bonus shot of my feet cause I did this directly after having my Saturday morning coffee.

 

[PLT383]

Nice write-up but I would have cropped the bonus. LOL

 

[Daltongang]

Just curious did you buy the vehicle new or used?

 

[6speedtranny]

Just curious did you buy the vehicle new or used?

Good question, I bought this 2019 used from Norm Reeves in Irvine just the other day. It’s certified used, but apparently this dealership installs the system on all vehicles new and used to protect the customer from theft.

 

[Daltongang]

Good question, I bought this 2019 used from Norm Reeves in Irvine just the other day. It’s certified used, but apparently this dealership installs the system on all vehicles new and used to protect the customer from theft.

Sounds like the dealer installs the system to boost profits. The vehicle came with a security system from Honda, ie the immobilizer alarm system.

Personally, if the dealership added this non Honda system to the vehicle, they should take it off if you don't want it, at no cost to the buyer.

 

[6speedtranny]

Sounds like the dealer installs the system to boost profits. The vehicle came with a security system from Honda, ie the immobilizer alarm system.
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Personally, if the dealership added this non Honda system to the vehicle, they should take it off if you don't want it, at no cost to the buyer.

I can’t agree with you more on that one. I called the dealer out on their lies about the factory system and at the end of the day they wouldn’t budge on the security system. The compromise was an 2k increase in my trade in value. The problem is these things are 3rd party installed on the cheap.

In a perfect world the dealer would remove it or not even install it in the first place. The best part about the dealer experience was the I got what I wanted at the price I wanted. In and out in under 4 hours with the family in tow.

I’ll have to show the dealer that page you posted when I throw that security system on their desk next time I’m there.

 

[Daltongang]

The only security system a dealer might and should install that is not a Honda OEM system is a shut down system for people with poor credit that are either leasing or buying.

Every month when you make your payment they give you a code to enter and the vehicle will run for another month. Fail to make a payment and the vehicle will not start. Pay off the vehicle or at the end of the lease the dealer removes the system. Keeps them from loosing vehicles to shisters and those that think they can skip paying for the vehicle.

 

[6speedtranny]

The only security system a dealer might and should install that is not a Honda OEM system is a shut down system for people with poor credit that are either leasing or buying.

Every month when you make your payment they give you a code to enter and the vehicle will run for another month. Fail to make a payment and the vehicle will not start. Pay off the vehicle or at the end of the lease the dealer removes the system. Keeps them from loosing vehicles to shisters and those that think they can skip paying for the vehicle.

Next time you are in a parking lot, look at the drivers window for a little sticker that says KARR. I forgot the part about the sticker removal. Reminds me of when my aunt used to put an ADT sign in her front yard even though she didn’t have a security system.

I identify as a white straight conservative male in their mid 30s so I’ve got great credit. That’s probably why the dealer didn’t make me do the monthly code. Of course I’ve only had the Pilot for 5 days now. Not much familiar with the buy here past here lot tactics. Hopefully they don’t shut it off while I’m out at Costco with a cart full of boba ice cream. If the dealer can still shut it off I wonder what I removed?

 

[Jimmy James]

I just tool delivery on 22 Pilot. I lease all my vehicles. This was a lease roll over. Found a sheet of stickers with a code punched thru and only 1 sticker remaining. 1 of the stickers is at the bottom of driver door. I called salesman and he mumbled about a dealer add on that I must have opted for thru finance and I assured him I did not. Then he mumbled about it being passive security and to put the remaining sticker somewhere conspicuous. Why are car dealers so sleazy?