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My pilot is near the end of warranty and I wanted to start saving money doing my own oil change, but it seems like it will come out the same or not that much savings as I have to do the labor and clean up. My dealership charges $50 and throws in free car wash.

How much is full synthetic these days $20+ then the genuine honda oil filter, and perhaps the washer. Seems like I'd be saving $10-20 doing it myself but that seems ok to pay than having to go under the car and get dirty, and the time spent doing this.

For $50 I go to the dealership, stay in the lounge for an hour drinking all i can drink coffee, latte, capacino etc and their crappy pastries and using their wifi, then I get a car wash too.
 

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My pilot is near the end of warranty and I wanted to start saving money doing my own oil change, but it seems like it will come out the same or not that much savings as I have to do the labor and clean up. My dealership charges $50 and throws in free car wash.

How much is full synthetic these days $20+ then the genuine honda oil filter, and perhaps the washer. Seems like I'd be saving $10-20 doing it myself but that seems ok to pay than having to go under the car and get dirty, and the time spent doing this.

For $50 I go to the dealership, stay in the lounge for an hour drinking all i can drink coffee, latte, capacino etc and their crappy pastries and using their wifi, then I get a car wash too.
I think it depends on how long you plan to drive the vehicle. Dealerships (and a number or shops) record oil changes to CarFax so having the service history noted is still important if you plan to sell the vehicle down the road.

Otherwise, keep sure to keep a great log and all your receipts filed electronically with pics or otherwise.


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The only reason I take my vehicles to the dealership is to get an oil change which normally comes with a complimentary inspection. That is well worth the $50 to me. I don’t have a lift in my garage so I’ll let them get under it and tell me what’s wrong. Then I can decide what I want to fix myself. In fact right now I’m sitting in the Toyota service lounge waiting for my Taco’s oil change.
 

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The only reason I take my vehicles to the dealership is to get an oil change which normally comes with a complimentary inspection. That is well worth the $50 to me. I don’t have a lift in my garage so I’ll let them get under it and tell me what’s wrong. Then I can decide what I want to fix myself. In fact right now I’m sitting in the Toyota service lounge waiting for my Taco’s oil change.
Do you really believe they actually inspect anything???


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why wouldn’t they look for stuff they can fix and make money?


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Cuz they are lazy bums. Several times i was inspection has been done but asking for my report really puzzled service advisor. Change your oil, get under the car and visually inspect.


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There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing that at a dealer. When my wife drove a TSX we did exactly that, because I don't use ramps and could not get under that car.

However, now that she has a Pilot, I do it myself. I buy her oil twice a year, when Mobil does a rebate. I get $12 off 5 quarts, so it comes out to $14 out the door for 5 qt jug of Mobil 1 synthetic EP 15k oil, and I buy the filters in bulk on ebay, came out to $6 each. So my oil change costs me exactly $20. I enjoy changing the oil, and use the opportunity to inspect all the fluids, inspect the engine for any issues, leaks, check the battery terminals, check/change the air and cabin filter, inspect the spool valve gasket for leaks, inspect the valve covers, check tire pressures, and wipe down the engine compartment.

I also change the transmission fluid every other oil change. This is simple and quick on these Honda's and ensures the transmission will be properly maintained.

Then I carry the use oil and tranny fluid to my local AutoZone when drop-off of my sealed containers is simple and takes 1 minute.

Lastly, I do this because I do it on my schedule, whenever I want. Scheduling an appointment and being stuck somewhere is a huge pain to me, but I understand that's not a big deal to other people.
 

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My 2012 Pilot was 100% dealer serviced. I couldn't change the oil myself for what they charge. Plus I get beverages/snacks and usually end up with chatting with nice folks in the lounge area.

Every time I got an inspection report. I bought my 2019 at the same dealer who serviced my 2012. They will also do all the work on the new one.
 

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I couldn't change the oil myself for what they charge.
I never understand that when people say it. With a coupon, the lower cost dealer near me is $45, plus tax ($49). Regular price is $60 plus tax.

To change my own oil, it costs me exactly $20 for the oil and the filter. Do you get the dealer to change yours for less than $20? Or is that just a saying?

As far as "what is my time worth".... start to finish I complete the job in less time than it takes to drive to the dealership and back.
 
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I never understand that when people say it. With a coupon, the lower cost dealer near me is $45, plus tax ($49). Regular price is $60 plus tax.

To change my own oil, it costs me exactly $20 for the oil and the filter. Do you get the dealer to change yours for less than $20? Or is that just a saying?

As far as "what is my time worth".... start to finish I complete the job in less time than it takes to drive to the dealership and back.
Agree 100%
 

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I never understand that when people say it. With a coupon, the lower cost dealer near me is $45, plus tax ($49). Regular price is $60 plus tax.

To change my own oil, it costs me exactly $20 for the oil and the filter. Do you get the dealer to change yours for less than $20? Or is that just a saying?

As far as "what is my time worth".... start to finish I complete the job in less time than it takes to drive to the dealership and back.
Back when I bought my '12, I got two free oil changes from the dealer where I bought it. The problem was, I moved out of state two weeks later. My dealer here actually honored that and gave me two free oil changes. After that, I priced doing it myself - a 5-quart jug of 0W20 was like $25 at Walmart, a Honda filter was $10, and a new crush washer was like $3. With coupon (which they always seem to have going), it's $35 at local dealer. That's why I said I couldn't change it for what the dealer charged. You found a way to do it cheaper, great. I'm just laying out how I worked it out.

I always took the '12 Pilot in whenever headed somewhere else so I never considered it wasted time as it was on the way. Usually it was when heading to the beach, or taking my mother-in-law to the casino. I'd get caught up on emails and such while I waited.

Speaking of time, yeah my time is valuable. Plus, it's hot as hell here in Florida pretty much all the time. To be honest, I simply don't feel like sweating my nuts off doing an oil change, even in the garage it's still hot. On top of that, I work on things for a living and do a 24/7 on-call rotation every third week. So here's some more honesty - when I'm off the last thing I want to do is work on something, especially when I'm not getting paid to do so. Given all that, I'll likely never do an oil change myself ever again.

There's an additional wrinkle in regards to my '19 Pilot, the dealer worked in a prepaid maintenance package to seal the deal. For 5 years and 75K miles, I don't have to even think about it - it's all covered. I got a similar deal when I just bought my truck two weeks ago, but that's only for 3 years.

I hope my explanation is satisfactory.
 

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Back when I bought my '12, I got two free oil changes from the dealer where I bought it. The problem was, I moved out of state two weeks later. My dealer here actually honored that and gave me two free oil changes. After that, I priced doing it myself - a 5-quart jug of 0W20 was like $25 at Walmart, a Honda filter was $10, and a new crush washer was like $3. With coupon (which they always seem to have going), it's $35 at local dealer. That's why I said I couldn't change it for what the dealer charged. You found a way to do it cheaper, great. I'm just laying out how I worked it out.
Makes perfect sense. I just have heard people say that over the years, and couldn't figure out how they were getting it done so much cheaper than I could.
 

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I also change the transmission fluid every other oil change. This is simple and quick on these Honda's and ensures the transmission will be properly maintained.

Only if you have the 6 speed transmission. The 9 speed requires some very specific things that have to be done, and the 3.1 Honda transmission fluid is around $35.00 or more per quart. No dipstick to check the fluid either.
 
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Do you really believe they actually inspect anything???


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Yes, I actually do believe they inspect things. As a matter of fact both the local Honda and Toyota dealers have found legitimate issues on my vehicles. How do I know the components were bad you ask . . . because I inspected the parts with my eyes and agreed with their assessment. Then I replaced the parts myself, further inspected the old parts, and concluded they had indeed failed.

The dealer has the service department in place to make money. They don’t offer $40 or $50 oil changes out of the goodness of their hearts. They want to find something wrong with your vehicle. The dishonest ones will make up problems, so it is buyer beware.
 
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For those not fortunate enough to have a vehicle lift in your garage, I am curious how you inspect all the suspension components. I know I’m not willing to put my vehicles on jack stands every oil change so I can perform a complete suspension check.
 

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For those not fortunate enough to have a vehicle lift in your garage, I am curious how you inspect all the suspension components. I know I’m not willing to put my vehicles on jack stands every oil change so I can perform a complete suspension check.
I drive the front of the vehicle onto a pair of Rhino Ramps and then jack the rear of the vehicle up until it is level. I put four jack stands under the car then to prevent any injury if the ramps fail.

I can now change oil, filter, rotate the tires, clean and or service the brakes, change the differential fluid if needed, or the transfer case fluid. I can also check the underbody and inspect the suspension both from under the car and with having the tires off. I can see if there are any unusual leaks or stains under the car components such as oil or transmission leaks, brake line problems, etc.

It's a little bit of a pain to do it, but it only gets done two maybe three times a year depending on miles and what needs to be done. If nothing other than an oil and filter change, then I'll just drive it onto the ramps, use two jack stands for safety, and change the oil. If a rotation is also called for, then that's when all four wheels come off the ground. I have at times jacked the front up and off the front ramps to remove them for closer inspection if needed if the ramps are in the way. I just put the vehicle back down onto the jack stands when I remove the ramps.

Been doing most of my own maintenance and repairs for over 50 years and I still enjoy doing it MOST of the time. There are times with cold weather, dealer coupons, or my body just not cooperating enough that I may take it in for a service or two.
 

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Oil changes only take me literally less than 1 minute to get under the car and remove the oil drain bolt to drain the oil. I usually give it 15 min to fully drain the oil, then I put the drain bolt back in with a new crush washer. Oil filter removal is a pain considering the location, but I’ve used Ziploc bags to eliminate the mess. Install a new filter, then proceed to fill the tank with the appropriate amount of oil. Total time I spend actually moving around doing something? Maybe 10 min max including the pouring of the oil. If the code calls for it, I’ll put my car on jack stands to rotate the tires. I personally buy oil from Costco in bulk when it goes on sale ($20 or so for 6 qts) and buy the oil filter every oil change. I love the satisfaction of knowing what happens to my car, but I’m also mechanically inclined. Not everyone shares that same aptitude so it really depends on your value of time. I’ve been burned with oil change shops not tightening my drain bolt, so I vowed never to let a shop do some I can do myself. Just my .02 cents


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Suppose the oil change at the dealer only costs $27?

That's why my last change was done at a dealer for $29.99 since the weather was not good and I was actually under the weather myself! The dealer I went to used Honda brand full synthetic 0W20 with a Honda oil filter, including 6 quarts which the Pilot requires for the same price. I didn't realize that Honda still uses a synthetic blend oil if the included oil is in fact Honda brand.

I have some Honda filters (A0-1) and Mobile 1 EP 0W20 full synthetic for my oil changes. Total cost of the oil and filter since the oil had a rebate is $11.00 for each 5 quart jug of oil and the filters were about $7.50 each. So for $18.50 I can do my own changes with a better oil and a Honda filter.
Occasionally though saving the $10.00 or so isn't worth it to me but not very often!
 
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