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HONDA PREPARES A LARGER HYBRID VEHICLE.

Honda Motor Co. will introduce a V-6 hybrid drivetrain in
Japan and North America as early as next year, reports
the Nihon Keizai Shimbun.

The new system will end up in the Honda Accord
sedan, MDX SUV or an Acura model, according to the
Japanese newspaper. It says the hybrid drivetrain, which
combines a piston engine and electric motor, is expected
to improve fuel economy by as much as 40% and improve
acceleration up to 20% over the same vehicle powered by
just a piston engine.

Hybrids offer such improvements by switching between
two power sources depending upon which one is more fuelefficient
for driving conditions at the moment—or combining
both sources during moments of hard acceleration.
Honda’s new hybrid vehicle will be the company’s
largest yet and mirrors Toyota Motor Corp.’s plans to
debut a hybrid V-6 version of its RX 330 SUV next year.
That’s about when the first U.S. hybrid vehicles will debut.
 

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Cool! The MDX already has some really impressive environmental engineering (see here)--now it will get great gas mileage too. Also, Ford's little SUV is supposed to offer a hybrid version in fleet sales this year and in consumer sales next year.

Question 1: Do these hybrid vehicles also use the braking power conservation technology or is that a totally separate kind of system?

Question 2: Are these hybrid technologies ready for prime time, or should we still expect prices to come down and reliability to improve dramatically over the next few years?
 

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robrecht said:

Question 1: Do these hybrid vehicles also use the braking power conservation technology or is that a totally separate kind of system?

Question 2: Are these hybrid technologies ready for prime time, or should we still expect prices to come down and reliability to improve dramatically over the next few years?
1) Yes they use some regenerative braking, but not as much as a system that has direct motor drive of the wheels.

2) Yes, and Yes.
They are ready for prime time, and they will improve in opperation and cost for about the next 100 years.
 

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N_Jay said:
2) Yes, and Yes.
They are ready for prime time, and they will improve in opperation and cost for about the next 100 years. [/B]
Thanks, N_Jay!

About how much will this technology currently add to the cost of a car? Care to speculate? I'm just interested in a general amount or range.
 

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robrecht said:
Thanks, N_Jay!

About how much will this technology currently add to the cost of a car? Care to speculate? I'm just interested in a general amount or range.
Start with the % increase for a Hybrid Civic over a standard Civic, then add the loss in profit for Honda (hidden cost to the consumer), then add the cost for replacement batteries (about once in the life of the vehicle), then add the lost utility of the storage area used by the batteries.

In my humble opinion, not worth it, unless you add in the tax break and the use of HOV lanes.

But every year it will get to be less of a cost difference.
 

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Twinkie said:
I think I will wait for the Hydrogen Hummer :1:
But where do you get the hydrogen, and at what expense ($ and environmental cost)? Hydrogen sounds good for politicians, but it seems like the science isn't there yet.
 

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robrecht said:
But where do you get the hydrogen, .
fill car with water...it coverts to hydrogen :2: :2: :2:
 

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Drat, if I had known that Honda was coming out with a hybrid SUV, I would have waited. :( I was going to wait for the hybrid RX330, but then I saw how small the SUV was already and how poor the visibility was and went for the Pilot. Well, when this Pilot wears out in another 200K miles, I'll get the hybrid then.
 

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ramirami said:
fill car with water...it coverts to hydrogen :2: :2: :2:
Or you could just drive to the Sun to fill up there every week, but either way, the conversion or the space travel involved is expensive and impractical and may involve environmental adverse effects comparable to the current technology.
 
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