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I first heard about the Ascent when we purchased a Subaru Forester last July. The salesman mentioned the new subaru to me when he noticed we were driving a '16 Pilot. He told us then that he would very much like to be given a chance to trade us into the new Ascent when they become available & I've been watching the news releases on them very closely. As for those stating the cheap plastics in the Subaru brand, they may be correct when talking about the older models, but I can assure you that the quality, aesthetics and the fitment on our Forester Touring is every bit as good as on our Pilot Touring.

We test drove a '15 model CR-V EX-L and a '17 CR-V EX-L with the 2.0 turbo when we decided to add another vehicle to our stable last July, because after owning our Pilot, we were pretty sure we wanted our 2nd vehicle to be a CR-V. We were both blown away by how underwhelmed we were with the Pilot's little brother. The engines were noisy under acceleration and both felt very under powered. At an idle both engines made the vehicles shudder & vibrate. The road noise was much louder than the Pilot and although the new CR-V was better than the 2 year old model, we weren't impressed with the comfort and visibility of the little Hondas. The Adaptive Cruise Control on the new CR-V was similar to the Pilot, which is far from exceptional. We walked out feeling let down & frustrated. We then drove down to the Subaru dealership and test drove a couple of new & used Foresters. Everything that we disliked about the Honda, we loved about the Forester. We bought one on the spot. We've put nearly 8,000 miles on the little Subi now and have only put around 2,000 miles on our Pilot.

I say all this to let you know that we are impressed enough with the Subaru brand , that we may very well trade off our 2 year old Pilot for a new Ascent in the next year or two. The only 2 things that will make me hesitate are the new engine, a 260 HP, 277 Ft lb. of torque, 2.4 L turbocharged 4 cylinder boxer, coupled to a new "high torque" version of their Lineartronic CVT. Subaru's "Eyesight" setup in our Forrester is IMHO, far superior to the Honda setup... Time will tell whether the new engine & CVT will work out well in the Ascent and whether it will achieve the great fuel economy, "usable" power, and just plain fun that the Honda 3.5L and 9 speed tranny deliver. I've been saying for 2 years that our Pilot is the finest vehicle I've owned over the past 49 years. The little Forester may be making me rethink those words...

I will say that IMO you can't go wrong with a new Pilot, but I would wait & at least take the new Ascent for a test drive when they come available. Their appearance alone makes me drool. I think we're going to be amazed at the quality and value of the big Subi.
 

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We're not anywhere near ready to trade our Pilot off yet, but when we are we will definitely be looking at both the Pilot & the Ascent. We've really been impressed with our '15 Forester. It's been virtually trouble free with over 50,000 on it now. We love our Pilot also, but it definitely hasn't been trouble free... I will add that Honda has taken care of the problems we have had at no expense to us other than down time and (2) 140 mile round trips to the dealership with 2 vehicles every time we have an issue. Our Subie dealer is 1/4 mile down the road from our Honda dealership and assured us they would provide us with a loaner vehicle any time we need service or any kind of work done to it. We've never had to take them up on their offer...


Not trying to start any arguments here, but cintocrunch, you may want to do a little research on the Subaru head gasket issue. From everything I've read and heard, the issue was resolved around the mid to late '14 models and they haven't had problems since. This coming from quite a bit of online research and speaking with several Subaru techs before purchasing our Forester.
 

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I agree. Anything mechanical is going to occasionally have issues. I just don't want people to get he idea that the Subie head gasket issue is still a prevalent problem...
 

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We have 3 teenage boys and I'm struggling with which vehicle has the most space in the 3rd row. Ultimately that will decide which SUV we go for. The Pilot has more headroom but I'm mostly concerned with legroom. Looking at the dimensions online they appear to be about the same but when I test drove both the Pilot just seemed to have more space. What have you all found to be true?
We took our daughter's family to the UP 2 years ago and our then 12 and 14 year old grandsons were in the back seat for over 2,000 miles. They were 6'4" & 6'2" at the time and had plenty of leg & head room. I'm not so sure they would be as comfortable now at 6'7" and 6'6"...
 

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We stopped in to our Subaru dealer last week & I got my first official closeup look at one. I must say I think it's a gorgeous vehicle. That's where the love affair ended. I sat in all 3 positions. The driver's position was very nice, although I'm not sure the seat would be as comfortable after a 500 mile as the Pilot's is. The center row seats were difficult to get my old, 6'4", 250 pound body into and the seat was not nearly as comfy as the Pilot middle row seat. The headroom was cramped and the leg room with the driver's seat all the way back was non existent. I attempted to crawl into the rear seat and nearly gave up. It was very difficult for this old grandpa to get back there. I finally made it, but my head was hitting the roof and I had no feet or leg room at all. The salesmen were all busy, so at least after extricating myself from the vehicle I didn't have to badmouth the new Ascent. It may work for small or average sized folks, but if you're an Amazon like me, you might as well stick with a Pilot or Highlander. It's too bad, I really wanted to like the Ascent...
 
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