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I thought maybe my cam seals or main seals failed, but it's obviously Honda Bond Failure. Will be removing the exhaust to remove Oil Pan and Oil Pump. I will be resealing with Permatex Ultra Black Gasket Maker.
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On what year Pilot did this happen and at what mileage?
2012 Honda Crosstour 3.5L V6 with 251k miles. Same Oil Pan and Pump # as a 2012 Pilot. But you knew that before you asked. Right?
 

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2012 Honda Crosstour 3.5L V6 with 251k miles. Same Oil Pan and Pump # as a 2012 Pilot. But you knew that before you asked. Right?
Between the Crosstour owners and the Passport owners, it's enough to make your head spin.

Are you going to keep this vehicle to at least 502K, so that we can find out if Permatex Ultra Black Gasket Maker will perform as well as, if not better than, Honda Bond?
 

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Are you going to keep this vehicle to at least 502K, so that we can find out if Permatex Ultra Black Gasket Maker will perform as well as, if not better than, Honda Bond?
That is the plan.
My oil leaks started 100k miles back.
 

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my guess is they took something out of the Honda bond to make it less bad for environment = not last as long as the older stuff. Hondabond and Yamabond used to be the best of the best case sealer.
I think age is a big factor too. I'd go out on a limb and say oil pan and pump sealing should be done on your 2nd TB WP job.
 

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Found this kit made by Aisin (SKH-005). It contains the 2 cam seals and front main seal along with the rubber timing cover gaskets. I felt the need to replace the TB cover gaskets because when they become oil soaked, they swell.
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Opened and verified fitment.
$27.79 Rock Auto
 
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I saw that at Walmart yesterday too.
Did you see they had 2 kinds of black also?
The High heat, and the Not mentioned?
Yes.
Always careful to buy high heat. The stuff is great.
 

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Agreed. I used it last on my suzuki GSXR1000's valve cover when I was in there checking the valve lash clearances. Didn't leak a drop since then last winter.
 
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Managed to get the pan off today. Cleaned off some old Honda Bond.
I got a late start. Fire me.
 
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Throwing away another perfectly good water pump for sleep sakes. 🤨
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Looks good. Why were you in there again? Leaking gasket?
Strong work
 
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Looks good. Why were you in there again? Leaking gasket?
Strong work
Little more cleaning to do. The oil pan and pump are sealed by the factory with Honda Bond. No gasket. I'll be using this...
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Would it require the 'high heat' version?

Bond, Honda Bond......................spoken like Bond, James Bond LOL
 
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Why are you throwing out the water pump?
It's just one of those parts that's difficult to get to. And if it fails it can cause your timing belt to fail. It's got 70k miles on it but the bearing still turns smoothly. I've gone 180k miles on a water pump. I won't do it again though. It's just not smart to try and save $100 when it it fails it could cost you thousands.
 
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