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One of my neighbors has a Pilot, and I noticed that the rear bumper has four round holes with caps in each hole. Does anyone know why? I don't think I have seen this on any other Pilot.
 

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Probably the backup sensors.
You can add that to any Pilot as an accessory.
http://www.handa-accessories.com/pilot/backupsensor.pdf
 

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At first, Mr. Z and I wanted to get backup sensors. But when we realized it would require those four holes in the bumper, we sort of nixed the idea.

Wish there was a backup sensor system that didn't require such obvious modifications!
 

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Thanks for the information. The car I saw has dealer plates, and is loaded with every conceivable option, right down to the chrome bumper doo-dads. I just couldn't figure out those holes.
 

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Ziploc said:
At first, Mr. Z and I wanted to get backup sensors. But when we realized it would require those four holes in the bumper, we sort of nixed the idea.

Wish there was a backup sensor system that didn't require such obvious modifications!
The holes don't look that bad. I think they give the bumper "character". You can see them on larger cars, from MB's SL500 to Lexus' LS400 and of course on minivans to suvs.
 

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The holes don't look that bad. I think they give the bumper "character". You can see them on larger cars, from MB's SL500 to Lexus' LS400 and of course on minivans to suvs.
That's what I tried to tell my husband, but he wasn't buying it. Now he's gotten me to where I, too, see 'em standing out like a sore thumb.

I guess it's a case where one person's "character" is another person's "blemish."
 

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Ziploc - Vaguely recall seeing something about backup sensors that did not require placement through the bumper cover.
 

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That's what I tried to tell my husband, but he wasn't buying it. Now he's gotten me to where I, too, see 'em standing out like a sore thumb.

I guess it's a case where one person's "character" is another person's "blemish."
So why don't you just put your foot down and show him who is the true boss of the house and get them! :D

The sensor is, after all, for safety purposes.
 

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So why don't you just put your foot down and show him who is the true boss of the house and get them! :D

The sensor is, after all, for safety purposes.
I think I'll show him this post!
 

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seadog said:
Ziploc - Vaguely recall seeing something about backup sensors that did not require placement through the bumper cover.
You know, now that you mention it, I think I do, too. When I get a chance, I'll do some searching.......
 

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I've been a little surprised that car companies have not come up with a better way to integrate backup sensors into the rear bumper. Every car/suv I've seen with them always looks like they were added as an afterthought.

I predict that in the future some kind of acoustically transparent cover for the bumpers will be developed and the sensors will be invisible. The Navy has used such coverings for sonar domes for decades.

As always, innovation driven by capitalism will produce better products for all of us. Since I've never heard anyone speak positively about the holes, buttons, or, my favorite "bumper acne" I'm sure that eventually manufacturers will come up with something better.
 

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I've been a little surprised that car companies have not come up with a better way to integrate backup sensors into the rear bumper. Every car/suv I've seen with them always looks like they were added as an afterthought.

I predict that in the future some kind of acoustically transparent cover for the bumpers will be developed and the sensors will be invisible. The Navy has used such coverings for sonar domes for decades.

As always, innovation driven by capitalism will produce better products for all of us. Since I've never heard anyone speak positively about the holes, buttons, or, my favorite "bumper acne" I'm sure that eventually manufacturers will come up with something better.
Ha! "Bumper acne" That's pretty funny!!! And, that's exactly how my husband views those tell-tale holes! I do think you're right--it's a matter of time until somebody manufactures an "acoustically transparent cover" for the sensors that avoids the need for holes. Surely it's a case of adapting existing technology!
 

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I think the popularity of these caught the auto companies off guard.
It takes years to get a new technology designed into a car, and these came down the cost curve fairly fast.
 

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I think the popularity of these caught the auto companies off guard.
It takes years to get a new technology designed into a car, and these came down the cost curve fairly fast.
Having these sensors just makes so much safety sense, I'm surprised the notion is kind of a late bloomer.
 

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Having these sensors just makes so much safety sense, I'm surprised the notion is kind of a late bloomer.
The design cycle of a car is 3 to 5 years. Even the technology advanced MB. BMW, and Lexus are putting these on in an aftermarket style (some are color matched now).

I would guess that 3 to 5 years ago, the predicted cost was sufficiently high, and the perceived "take rate" was sufficiently low to not justify designing them in.
 
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