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I was driving on the highway this past weekend and there were a few times I had to accelerate quite quickly. I would essentially floor it, the RPMs would go up a little bit before it would downshift. Is this the transmission doing some slipping? It just seems a bit sluggish when I need quick speed.
 

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When was the last time the tranny fluid was drained and filled (or flushed although not recommended by Honda)?
 
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What brand of fluid are you using ?
 

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What brand of fluid are you using ?
I'm not really asking what is causing the slippage (if thats what it is). It seems as though every question on this forum is answered with "have you done 3x drain and fill and what brand fluid do you use?" I am trying to figure out if what I experienced was in fact the transmission slipping. I use DW-1 and I understand a lot of people use Valvoline MaxLife. I am choosing to continue using DW 1 at this time. Thank you.
 

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Well if the fluid is that fresh, it seems that the friction materials in the clutches are worn out.
the transmission is unfortunately on its last legs.
 

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I think it will be difficult for those of us who were not in the Pilot with you to determine if the tranny slipped or not. You might take the Pilot to a tranny shop and have them take a test drive with you.
 

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I'm not really asking what is causing the slippage (if thats what it is). It seems as though every question on this forum is answered with "have you done 3x drain and fill and what brand fluid do you use?" I am trying to figure out if what I experienced was in fact the transmission slipping. I use DW-1 and I understand a lot of people use Valvoline MaxLife. I am choosing to continue using DW 1 at this time. Thank you.
I switched to the maxlife i found it didnt last as long as the DW1 fluid the hard shifting came back quicker ..once I switched back to the DW1 the hard shifting went away

That's true slippage can also mean when driving you will hear the engine go to a high rev and watch the tack stay a lot longer when you know from experience it should have switched gears already then suddenly it jerks ahead and the tranny goes back to normal
 

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I was driving on the highway this past weekend and there were a few times I had to accelerate quite quickly. I would essentially floor it, the RPMs would go up a little bit before it would downshift. Is this the transmission doing some slipping? It just seems a bit sluggish when I need quick speed.
Jack, if you were cruising at a steady speed, then most likely the torque converter was in lockup mode. When you hit the gas, the computer unlocks the TC before downshifting. If this is your scenario, it's not slipping, it's not really a shift flare. A downshift is a 2 or 3 step process, and Hondas can feel a little sluggish. If it bothers you, bring it to a trusted mechanic for his opinion.
 

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Jack, if you were cruising at a steady speed, then most likely the torque converter was in lockup mode. When you hit the gas, the computer unlocks the TC before downshifting. If this is your scenario, it's not slipping, it's not really a shift flare. A downshift is a 2 or 3 step process, and Hondas can feel a little sluggish. If it bothers you, bring it to a trusted mechanic for his opinion.
Thank you! This is what I was assuming. I just put a VCM Muzzler on my car and it is already improving things quite a bit. Next on the list is engine and transmission mounts.
 

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Jack, if you were cruising at a steady speed, then most likely the torque converter was in lockup mode. When you hit the gas, the computer unlocks the TC before downshifting. If this is your scenario, it's not slipping, it's not really a shift flare. A downshift is a 2 or 3 step process, and Hondas can feel a little sluggish. If it bothers you, bring it to a trusted mechanic for his opinion.
You have to decide if this is "normal" Honda sluggishness, or something else. And I know that you are tired of hearing this, but when in doubt, do another drain and fill. If the solenoids and valve bodies are a bit gunky, fresh fluid helps. It really is needed in a Honda transmission.
 

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You have to decide if this is "normal" Honda sluggishness, or something else. And I know that you are tired of hearing this, but when in doubt, do another drain and fill. If the solenoids and valve bodies are a bit gunky, fresh fluid helps. It really is needed in a Honda transmission.
4 drain and fills seems a bit excessive.
On a random note, are there any other brands of rebuilt or other transmissions besides Jasper? I know they're good but they're quite pricey.
 
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