Harsh! :2:ZoneIII said:Apparently, those who responded to the original question did not read it carefully. The original question asked about break-in additives that are supposedly in the oil when the car is delivered new. The question was not about regular oil change intervals and it did not ask for advice about regular oil change intervals.
Like the original poster, I am also curious about whether or not there is special oil in the car at delivery. However, it's too late for that now because, being a old-school guy myself, I changed the original oil after very few miles. I have done that with all my cars for 40 years and my 94 year-old father, a retired mechanical engineer, did that his whole life too. Having raced cars back in the 60s, I got into that habit with any new engine and it has served me well. I keep my cars a LONG time and they almost always run like new even with 250,000 miles on them. Yes, I know new engines are getting better and tolerances are tighter, but I change break-in oil early.
In a related issue, despite the fact that someone called anyone who would change oil at 2,000 miles "stupid" in another thread, I do just that and my engines last incredibly long. There are other advantages to doing that as well. Every time I change the oil, I check out everything and there have been times when, if I had not changed the oil as frequently, I would not have been aware of a problem that would have been disastrous if I had not discovered it. However, in my opinion, after 40 years of working on cars, I still believe that, in most cases, 3,000 oil and filter changes are the best overall plan. After reading some of the posts by some regular contributors to this board, I have come to the conclusion that some of those who are giving the most advice know absolutely nothing about engines from first-hand experience and are just blowing hot-air.
Anyway, as I said, the original question was not addressed. If someone knows if there actually is anything special about the oil that comes in a new Honda (not just a rumor), I would like to know about it and I know the person who posted the original question would as well. After all, he answered the question.
As I'm that poster who didn't read the question, I agree. But the only thing that lengthy post did, other than potentially offend someone, was to show that some people admit to being old, set in their ways, and unable to comprehend new ways of doing things.N_Jay said:Harsh! :2:
Not getting defensive.ZoneIII said:Talk about harsh!
Any harshness thay you perceived in my post was simply in response to a very harsh post by someone else. There was no reason for you to get so defensive.
I would also suggest that if you do not have an answer to a question, don't reply. Your response did not answer my question.
Pot, meet kettle.ZoneIII said:Someone asked a simple and logical question. Not only did you not answer it, but you chose to insult me personally. You also insulted people on another forum. Ironically, while insulting others, you whine that they are too harsh(???).
If you do not have the answer to a question, I would suggest that you simply not answer it. But to attack an insult others is another matter entirely.
Just for the record, there is one and only one official Olde Fart on the honda-pilot.org forums and he's one of the other Moderators: colorider!!!ZoneIII said:[ S N I P P E D ]
But sorry for the confusion about Jay and N Jay. I guess that's what happens when you get to be an old fart who cannot comprhend anything.
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That's Kemosabe, not Kimosabe. I think there might be a Kimosabe too!ZoneIII said:LOL!
Thanks, kimosabe, but I will never remember that name. In fact, I am having a hard time remembering what it is that I am doing here right now.