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Honda has 1.9%-2.9% on the 2022s but the dealer is telling me 6.09%-6.39% is the best they are getting on 2023s. I'm trying to decide how much I'll be putting down on a 2023 to lighten my interest hit or just keep my money working on my end if the rate is low enough. My credit is high 700s.
 

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Honda has 1.9%-2.9% on the 2022s but the dealer is telling me 6.09%-6.39% is the best they are getting on 2023s. I'm trying to decide how much I'll be putting down on a 2023 to lighten my interest hit or just keep my money working on my end if the rate is low enough. My credit is high 700s.
Financing is a personal decision but I don't think one can earn 6.09-6.39% risk free return after taxes right now. First priority is having an emergency fund, second priority is making sure to max out tax advantaged investing like 401Ks and IRAs, and then past that it becomes a personal decision about whether you have additional money to invest vs paying more (or all) down on a car. Don't want to be "car poor" for sure with no other liquidity but on the other end I personally wouldn't go take out a 6% loan just to invest it in the markets, which is one way of looking at the decision on whether the finance a car or not if you have some other meaningful savings and investments beyond the IRA and 401K etc
 

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Honda has 1.9%-2.9% on the 2022s but the dealer is telling me 6.09%-6.39% is the best they are getting on 2023s. I'm trying to decide how much I'll be putting down on a 2023 to lighten my interest hit or just keep my money working on my end if the rate is low enough. My credit is high 700s.
Try mentioning to the Honda dealer that Toyota is presently offering a 2.9% rate for 36 months on the 2023 Highlander.
 

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4.69% for 48 months through Honda Financial on January 30th. They initially told me a higher rate, then I referred them to the lease/financing calculation page on Honda's website for the 2023 Pilot (which, at the time, was saying 4.94% for 48 months and 5.04% for 60 months).

Credit score is somewhere around 750.
 

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NFCU vs USAA (See post #11 below)

48 & 60 month loan: NFCU beats USAA -- 4.74% vs 4.89%/4.94%
72 month loan: -- same at 5.04%
84 month Loan: USAA beats NFCU hands down -- 6.94% vs 5.39%

I don't see the 3.54% (36 months) rate on NFCU's website.

NFCU New & Used Car Loan Rates:

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Yeah, these rates are terrible, especially when I see Toyota sticking in that 2.9% range. I'll probably just go cash for the whole thing if I can even find a deal. Buying a car is always a horrible experience and the dealers in my area don't make it any easier. I may punt and wait 6 months or so. I don't see overall interest rates getting better but maybe at least these dealers will loosen up a bit on pricing as supply comes back around. That may help with some better rate offers too. Wish I could just throw the thing in my Amazon cart and be done with it. I don't need a test drive, window switch training, free donuts, blah, blah, blah. Just take my cash, lets fill out the required paperwork and I drive it home. :cool:
 

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NFCU vs USAA (See post #11 below)

48 & 60 month loan: NFCU beats USAA -- 4.54%/4.74% vs 4.89%/4.94%
72 month loan: -- same at 5.04%
84 month Loan: USAA beats NFCU hands down -- 6.94% vs 5.39%

I don't see the 3.54% (36 months) rate on NFCU's website.

NFCU New & Used Car Loan Rates:

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If you are a senior enlisted (E7 and above) they give an additional 1.0% off. So it went down from 4.54% to 3.54%.
 

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800+ score. I did $25k @ 4.99% for 60. $47X /mo (I don’t remember exactly and don’t have the paperwork handy).

Important: Come with a pre approval letter to make them match or beat your rate in your hand. They have a buy rate and the spread from that to the rate they give you is what they pocket.
 

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If you are a senior enlisted (E6 and above) they give an additional 1.0% off. So it went down from 4.54% to 3.54%.
I did not know that—thanks! Is that discount only for active duty, or does it also apply retirees? I joined NFCU after I retired and have never bothered to inquire about a car loan with them. I’ve either financed with USAA or the dealer if they can beat USAA’s rate.
 

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I did not know that—thanks! Is that discount only for active duty, or does it also apply retirees? I joined NFCU after I retired and have never bothered to inquire about a car loan with them. I’ve either financed with USAA or the dealer if they can beat USAA’s rate.
According to their website it says: "Exclusively for Active Duty, National Guard and Reserves E-7 Through E-9"


I would ask anyways.
 
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