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I you plan to install an aftermarket amp or sub to your audio system, you will quickly learn that it doesn't play with the Pilots ANC (Active Noise Cancellation). The good news is that it is possible to disable the ANC by disconnecting the front and rear ANC mics. I've provided detailed instructions with photos for you. Just view the photos in order. First we will cover the Rear mic then the front in the next post. If you have question, just respond to the post as I will monitor it.

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Disable ANC on 2012-2013 Pilot - 2 of 2

Okay, now that you've finished disabling the rear mic, let's move on to the front. Again, replay if you have any questions as I will monitor the thread.

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Disconnecting the ANC unit (active noise cancellation)

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ANC problems (active noise cancellation)
Radio noise problem.

How to disable or disconnect the ANC unit? just unplug it.
Behind the radio head unit is the ANC unit bolted to a plastic bracket.

Make sure you unplug the wires at the ANC unit. NOT from the radio head unit. If you unplug the wires from the radio head unit the subwoofer will stop working as well as the ANC. 2 of the wires feed the SUB and its mini amp.

Left click on attach.picture to enlarge it, to help view the image (ANC unit #23)
 

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Is this for a 2012 Pilot?

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ANC problems (active noise cancellation)
Radio noise problem.

How to disable or disconnect the ANC unit? just unplug it.
Behind the radio head unit is the ANC unit bolted to a plastic bracket.

Make sure you unplug the wires at the ANC unit. NOT from the radio head unit. If you unplug the wires from the radio head unit the subwoofer will stop working as well as the ANC. 2 of the wires feed the SUB and its mini amp.

Left click on attach.picture to enlarge it, to help view the image (ANC unit #23)
 

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Nice write-up Joe and even better pictures! I drink to much coffee to hold a camera that still.

I have to ask........ have you decided to ditch the ANC??????
 

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I hear you. That's where image stabilization comes in. :)

I think if that rear mic had given me any more trouble, you would have seen a video of me smashing it with a sledge hammer! Honda so nicely put a 1" high barrier of foam around the opening. Probably for noise isolation but I swear it was just to piss me off... ;-)

To answer your second question, I think so. The real test will be when I go for a long ride with my wife. When I'm in the car alone, the music is usually loud enough that ANC really doesn't have much value. If she complains and if evarsallona's diagram is correct for the 2012 pilot, I may put a switch in to turn it on/off. It should be pretty easy if it is a separate box. When I have the HU out again, I'll poke around...

Nice write-up Joe and even better pictures! I drink to much coffee to hold a camera that still.

I have to ask........ have you decided to ditch the ANC??????
 

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Toolman..... don't you know that you never let the wife see you working on the car especially when toys are involved. If she did not see you working on the Honda she would not know anything was different. I know this first hand; my divorce attorney explained it all to me after my 4th divorce. :29:
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You make a good point but it is hard to avoid when you have body panels spewed all about the garage! She said, "What the hell did you do? It was a new car!" Then I cranked the sub up and she shook her head and left... ;-)

One thing that helps though is separate bank accounts! ;-) Learned that after wife #1.

Toolman..... don't you know that you never let the wife see you working on the car especially when toys are involved. If she did not see you working on the Honda she would not know anything was different. I know this first hand; my divorce attorney explained it all to me after my 4th divorce. :29:
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Okay, I went looking for this ANC unit in my 2012 Pilot EX-L (non-Navi). I could not find it. I'm guessing that if this diagram is for the 2012, it is for the Navi or Touring model that has an outboard amplifier. I'm pretty sure the ANC is built into the head unit on the non-Navi models. If someone knows differently, please let us know. Otherwise, disconnecting the mics does work.

Thanks,

Joe

Found this post here on this forum by during a search

ANC problems (active noise cancellation)
Radio noise problem.

How to disable or disconnect the ANC unit? just unplug it.
Behind the radio head unit is the ANC unit bolted to a plastic bracket.

Make sure you unplug the wires at the ANC unit. NOT from the radio head unit. If you unplug the wires from the radio head unit the subwoofer will stop working as well as the ANC. 2 of the wires feed the SUB and its mini amp.

Left click on attach.picture to enlarge it, to help view the image (ANC unit #23)
 

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I hear you. That's where image stabilization comes in. :)

I think if that rear mic had given me any more trouble, you would have seen a video of me smashing it with a sledge hammer! Honda so nicely put a 1" high barrier of foam around the opening. Probably for noise isolation but I swear it was just to piss me off... ;-)


Joe, if it's any consolation, I was able to get a right-angle screwdriver from Harbor Freight for like $4.00. It was still a pain to use but I imagine it was a whole lot easier than what you went through. It took me about 10 minutes to get both screws off and another 10 to put it back.
 

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Believe it or not, I have one of those. You squeeze the handle to turn the bit... To this day, I haven't been able to find the darn thing. I'm sure if I go to HF and buy another I'll find it the next day! ;-) -Joe
 

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Are there any other negative affects of disabling the ANC? Does these Mics have anything to do with handfree bluetooth. This is the first vehicle we have had that has ANC and bluetooth. My wife loves the bluetooth with her Iphone and doesn't want to hinder her ability to use it.
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As long as you follow my instructions and do it as I described in the photos by taking apart the mic module and disconnecting the red wire, the Bluetooth with work fine and there are no other negative effects other than increased noise when the VCM kicks in and the engine is running on 3 or 4 cylinders. It doesn't take long to do. The front may take you 20 minutes at most if you are really careful. I could do it in 5 now. Just be sure you put the mic module back the way it was. See photo. If you flip it over, the mic will be pointing toward the passenger side and won't pickup well. The back mic was a pain but that has nothing to do with Bluetooth. You could complete the back in 5 min. if you cut the wire but I wanted to separate the connector so I could reconnect it when I sell the car.

Are there any other negative affects of disabling the ANC? Does these Mics have anything to do with handfree bluetooth. This is the first vehicle we have had that has ANC and bluetooth. My wife loves the bluetooth with her Iphone and doesn't want to hinder her ability to use it.
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Disabling the ANC itself does not affect the sound quality at all but it is necessary if you add any external amp or subwoofer to the system, otherwise you will get a loud tone out of the sub and/or speakers. Adding the amp and subwoofer does drastically improve the sound quality.

Did this improve the sound quality?
 

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I will make it more simple for whoever wants to use this method. I have a 2012 EX-L and to me it drives crappy without the ANC. So i disable the ANC on my radio. 1st - make sure your radio is off. 2nd - simultaneously press the numbers 1 & 6 ( while pressing them) press the Volume. At the top of the screen DIAG will appear. 3rd - press number 1. ANC ON should appear at the top of the screen. 4th - by pressing 1 you can turn the ANC off. There will be a continuous hum in the rear speaker for about 3 mins (at least thats the time it takes for the hum to stop in my Pilot). 5th - Once the hum stops press your Volume which will turn your radio off. Now you are set. The only down side to this method is every time you turn off your vehicle it will automatically return your radio to the original setting. Also if you want to re-engage the ANC after you turned it off, you can turn it on with the same process while your driving.
 

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ToolmanJoe...I have a 2013 EX 4WD and there are no ANC mics in either of the locations indicated by your pictures. I just did the LED interior light install and looked all over for the ANC mic and for the 2013 Pilots I believe the ANC mics are integrated into the Overhead map light housing...right next to the homelink buttons.

Here are the photos.
No ANC Mic above 2nd Row


Possible ANC Mics next to the Homelink buttons:


 

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vcm cancelation

Hey Toolmanjoe,
Your post on getting rid of the ANC was great. My question is - if the primary reason Honda installs the ANC is to negate the VCM is there away to turn off the VCM?
I, like many other Pilot owners, do not like those cylinders being deactivated.
I would do ANYthing to always run on all six cylinders.
And I know forum readers say that the ANC does not interfer with the sound of the stock radio unit, but my 2012 touring sound system is weak.
I hope you are still following this post and will reply
Thakns
 
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