I bought my pilot two days ago from David McDavid at Irving. It is a Black EX-L with Nav. I got 1500 off MSRP. I called around to find out who had the specific one in stock, so went to them. I have some accessories added (DVD0 which will be installed in a week. I will post that experience later. But overall, buying expereince was not bad. They are number #1 dealer in Texas and #3 in Nation (so they claim).