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I need to find out if this picture is a stock photo or the actual brakes in the kit because they show a two piston caliper which depending on the size would be a nice upgrade.
However I've been recently been using the top premium full 100% ceramic pads from Autozone and they make it feel like it has drilled rotors. They are lifetime guaranteed too so free pads when they wear out!
 

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Drilled and slotted rotors are overkill, IMHO, unless you're taking it out to the track every weekend.
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Otherwise, as an improvement to the Pilot's underachiever brakes, this set has kept me very happy ever since I finally put it in several years ago.

 

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Drilled and slotted rotors are overkill, IMHO, unless you're taking it out to the track every weekend. View attachment 161353

Otherwise, as an improvement to the Pilot's underachiever brakes, this set has kept me very happy ever since I finally put it in several years ago.

Or if you live in Boulder Colorado and drive up and down our steep mountain roads you need drilled rotors to resist fading unless you just want to drive super slow
 

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I'm looking at this big brake upgrade for my 07 Pilot ..... Thoughts?!

Since your Pilot is an ‘07, be sure to clean out the pad mount areas on the brackets. The rust will have to be filed or scraped out to re-establish sliding clearance for the new pads. A rotary wire brush will just polish the rust, and your new pads will bind and stick.
 

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That’s not a big brake kit. It’s simply a slotted/drilled rotor with pads and OEM sized replacement red powder coated calipers. Those calipers aren’t larger.
I have those Z36 pads in the front and they are significantly better than OEM. Still have pretty good bite when cold as well.

No point replacing the caliper if it’s good.

Don’t bother with slotted/drilled rotors. Drilled rotors are prone to cracking due to the constant thermal cycling of everyday driving. On a track, they’re hot for longer periods then slowly cooled down at the end. You won’t gain any performance from it. Slotting can help but can also be a little bit noisier. Slotting helps clean up any gases/debris between the rotor and pad.

Either way, not really necessary on a car like this and you won’t notice a difference in stopping distance. Put your money towards the best tires you can afford. They are significantly more important.

I’d definitely recommend the Z36 pads as well as the Z23 pads in the rear. Just go with a good quality rotors. I’ve been a fan of Bosch Quietcast. I’m on my second set of pads. No warping and still plenty above the minimum thickness.
 

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IMO, Just seem that people have more issues with their brakes that were converted to drilled/slotted rotors. Is it just me who thinks this?
 
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You’re about to waste a lot of money. You will see absolutely no benefit from it. Drilled and slotted rotors were designed for the track where you are repeatedly hard braking. Not only that but they will warp sooner. Save your money. Seriously. You won’t see any benefits. I use Bosch Quite Cast rotors on my Pilot and MDX. Paired with Akibono brake pads. Exceptional braking, minimal dust and absolutely no noise
 

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I’d emphasize quality rotors. This SUV isn’t light and imho, the rotors are slightly undersized. I’ve warped a lot of the cheaper discs on this car and went with the Bosch’s and have had zero issues in 3 years.
 

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I’d emphasize quality rotors. This SUV isn’t light and imho, the rotors are slightly undersized. I’ve warped a lot of the cheaper discs on this car and went with the Bosch’s and have had zero issues in 3 years.
Amen. I’ve had a great experience with Bosch as well. The OEMs seem to warp easily. I like the Bosch anti rust coating as well. I live in the Midwest where rust is an issue. I just hate seeing people waste money. Drilled and slotted serve a purpose but not for a Pilot. I was once thinking of doing the same for my Pilot but thankfully I reached out to my buddy who is a master mechanic and actually builds and owsno drag cars. He was the one who set me straight that I’d be wasting money. In addition those brakes need to be hot to achieve braking performance. Driving around town you won’t get them hot enough to achieve the desired results.
 

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Or if you live in Boulder Colorado and drive up and down our steep mountain roads you need drilled rotors to resist fading unless you just want to drive super slow
That's why we encourage members to add their location to their profile so regional driving environments can be taken into account for advice.

In this case, however, it's moot, as others have opined.
 

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Or if you live in Boulder Colorado and drive up and down our steep mountain roads you need drilled rotors to resist fading unless you just want to drive super slow
Drilling will do very little for fade resistance. While it technically will allow some heat to escape through the vanes, good pads, rotors, and fluid will do more for you in terms of fade resistance. Drilling has more of an impact on keeping the surface clean and allowing gases to escape resulting in slightly better friction. If you’re concerned with downhill braking, you need to use engine braking and reduce your brake usage to keep them from overheating.
 

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I'm looking at this big brake upgrade for my 07 Pilot ..... Thoughts?!

I have those on my Ram diesel. They do make a significant improvement in braking performance. Silent with minimal dusting. To be honest though our '07 stops really well. The pads alone with stock rotors would be plenty on a Pilot. I have Bosch rotors and had their pads. The rotors developed pulsation in less than 10K. My independant shop machined them on the vehicle and recommended stock pads as the sacrificial lamb. I've got 35K on them and they're smooth and quiet.
 

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Amen. I’ve had a great experience with Bosch as well. The OEMs seem to warp easily. I like the Bosch anti rust coating as well. I live in the Midwest where rust is an issue. I just hate seeing people waste money. Drilled and slotted serve a purpose but not for a Pilot. I was once thinking of doing the same for my Pilot but thankfully I reached out to my buddy who is a master mechanic and actually builds and owsno drag cars. He was the one who set me straight that I’d be wasting money. In addition those brakes need to be hot to achieve braking performance. Driving around town you won’t get them hot enough to achieve the desired results.
I have them on my Ram Diesel. I bedded them in per the instructions and they stop my Hulk pronto cold as well as hot. I had Hawks on my old Ram diesel and hated them. Noisy and I felt they had to be hot to work plus they chewed up the rotors in no time.
 

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Drilling will do very little for fade resistance. While it technically will allow some heat to escape through the vanes, good pads, rotors, and fluid will do more for you in terms of fade resistance. Drilling has more of an impact on keeping the surface clean and allowing gases to escape resulting in slightly better friction. If you’re concerned with downhill braking, you need to use engine braking and reduce your brake usage to keep them from overheating.
I've used drilled rotors before and I think they work great. There's a road here called magnolia rd and that is the best downhill brake fade testing area, drilled rotors and ceramic pads are definitely the winner
 

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I recently started using 100% ceramic pads sold by Autozone and let me tell you it's almost like adding drilled rotors. I can't wait to see how well they work with drilled rotors. They're also lifetime guarantee so free pads when they wear out!
 
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