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I just purchased my first Honda, a 2016 Pilot EXL. After driving it for a few days I keep feeling it hesitate, wavering, lack of power, etc when accelerating (or even holding the pedal steady).
After researching I discovered the 'fantastic' VCM 'feature'. I believe when you get a piston, spark plug and combustion chamber together you should use them to explode gasoline. Anyway...
Has anyone installed an S-VCM and how did it go? How hard was it to get to the ECT sensor?
 

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I've installed a competing product on 19 Pilot. It's extremely easy to install. The sensor itself just requires you disconnect it. Hardest part is really just wiring the battery connection. Again, not hard.
 

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It's not super easy nor super hard to get to. Remove the engine cover (no bolts, only plastic posts in rubber grommets) to make it easier.
 

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Not sure what you are feeling is the VCM rather than something else.

You might want to check into the transmission fluid replacement/software reprogramming TSB also as a source of your drive-ability concerns. Could also be the fuel injectors which are showing up as a problem in some of the earlier models also. How many miles on your 2016?

VCM shouldn't even kick in while accelerating. It does kick in when cruising on a flat road while under no load.
 
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Not sure what you are feeling is the VCM rather than something else.

You might want to check into the transmission fluid replacement/software reprogramming TSB also as a source of your drive-ability concerns. Could also be the fuel injectors which are showing up as a problem in some of the earlier models also. How many miles on your 2016?

VCM shouldn't even kick in while accelerating. It does kick in when cruising on a flat road while under no load.
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I just purchased my first Honda, a 2016 Pilot EXL. After driving it for a few days I keep feeling it hesitate, wavering, lack of power, etc when accelerating (or even holding the pedal steady).
After researching I discovered the 'fantastic' VCM 'feature'. I believe when you get a piston, spark plug and combustion chamber together you should use them to explode gasoline. Anyway...
Has anyone installed an S-VCM and how did it go? How hard was it to get to the ECT sensor?


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I've installed a competing product on 19 Pilot. It's extremely easy to install. The sensor itself just requires you disconnect it. Hardest part is really just wiring the battery connection. Again, not hard.


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It's not super easy nor super hard to get to. Remove the engine cover (no bolts, only plastic posts in rubber grommets) to make it easier.



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ls973800,
2 days ago I saw another discussion the hesitation symptoms for a 2016 Pilot which describes my issue better and also recommends a transmission fluid change. So one of the menbers in the discussion also had the SB # so I took that into the dealer and have scheduled the fluid change and a firmware update if needed. My Pilot only has 48k miles so I would expect injectors yet but anything is possible.
Thanks for the headsup. Steve
 

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Not sure what you are feeling is the VCM rather than something else.

You might want to check into the transmission fluid replacement/software reprogramming TSB also as a source of your drive-ability concerns. Could also be the fuel injectors which are showing up as a problem in some of the earlier models also. How many miles on your 2016?

VCM shouldn't even kick in while accelerating. It does kick in when cruising on a flat road while under no load.
Just to follow up on this:
I was going to install a S-VCM 'tuner' for my hesitating, non-responsiveness in the transmission issue but thanks to this and another discussion on this forum I decided to have the transmission fluid changed per the SB-014 & SB-015 today. On the way home from the dealer it drove like a dream; hesitation is GONE. Great work everyone, thank you. I will still probably install the S-VCM when it gets here though.
 

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Just to follow up on this:
I was going to install a S-VCM 'tuner' for my hesitating, non-responsiveness in the transmission issue but thanks to this and another discussion on this forum I decided to have the transmission fluid changed per the SB-014 & SB-015 today. On the way home from the dealer it drove like a dream; hesitation is GONE. Great work everyone, thank you. I will still probably install the S-VCM when it gets here though.
Glad to hear it took care of your problem!

I have a 2019 and considered the S-VCM and decided against it at this time. Supposedly the 3rd generation Pilots have an updated or different configured system than earlier vehicles had. Who really knows but that's the way I am going now.
 

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Glad to hear it took care of your problem!

I have a 2019 and considered the S-VCM and decided against it at this time. Supposedly the 3rd generation Pilots have an updated or different configured system than earlier vehicles had. Who really knows but that's the way I am going now.
I assume 3rd generation means 2016 and later?
Do you know how the VCM configuration is different than earlier vehicles?
 

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Yes, I meant the 2016 and later Pilots. Not sure what they have done hence the " Supposedly the 3rd generation Pilots have an updated or different configured system" comment in my post. I have read on a few other forums the same for those vehicles (Ridgeline, Passport) and one was from a Honda mechanic who made the same statement about changes. I have never been able to find exactly what was changed however, if anything.

There have also been posts from people who believe that using the ECO mode allows the VCM to engage. That is not true on the 3rd gen Pilots. ECO mode and non-ECO mode both allow the VCM to engage. ECO mode changes the throttle response, transmission shifting, and A/C operation to try and save fuel.
 

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3rd gen uses ECON not ECO. The modes are NOT the same. Pre-2016 used ECO which did tie in the the VCM. Current 3rd gen ECON mode has no connections to VCM. Honda improved the VCM operations by cycling the cylinder deactivation on/off more often to prevent past issues (hopefully).
 

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3rd gen uses ECON not ECO. The modes are NOT the same. Pre-2016 used ECO which did tie in the the VCM. Current 3rd gen ECON mode has no connections to VCM. Honda improved the VCM operations by cycling the cylinder deactivation on/off more often to prevent past issues (hopefully).
Thank you, I stand corrected for leaving the "N" off.
 
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