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2023 Pilot Touring AC not very cold

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#1 ·
Anyone else have trouble with their AC?

Mine is not very cold. The rear seems much colder but my front vents are not blowing very cold. My 2014 Pilot will freeze you out.
I’m sitting in my new 50k car and wishing I would have driven my 2014 today….. frustrating
 
#2 · (Edited)
That’s strange because mine is ice cold - much better than the 2020 Pathfinder I had previously.

Use a thermometer at the vent and see what is it outputting on low-medium speed. The centre vent is the best place to take the reading from.

A/C should be able to provide a 20 degree spread between the cabin temperature and outdoor ambient temperature. Use the same thermometer to measure the outside air as well to keep things consistent.

If you’re not getting a 20 degree spread under normal driving take it to your dealer. Sometimes there is not enough/too much refrigerant in the system and it doesn’t take much of either to cause a problem.
 
#22 ·
That’s strange because mine is ice cold - much better than the 2020 Pathfinder I had previously.

Use a thermometer at the vent and see what is it outputting on medium speed. The centre vent is the best place to take the reading from.

A/C will typically produce 20F cooler air than outside air and not much more. Use the same thermometer to measure the outside air as well to keep things consistent.

If you’re not getting a 20 degree spread, take it to your dealer. Sometimes there is not enough/too much refrigerant in the system and it doesn’t take much of either to cause a problem.
It should be 20* different than intake air temp, not outside. On recirc it should be cooling the already cooled air down another 20.
 
#4 ·
It's hard to compare to your older Pilot as it uses R-134A vs your current Pilot which uses R-1234yf. I can tell you from experience that the latter doesn't come anywhere near the cooling ability of the former.
 
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#5 ·
Anyone else have trouble with their AC?

Mine is not very cold. The rear seems much colder but my front vents are not blowing very cold. My 2014 Pilot will freeze you out.
I’m sitting in my new 50k car and wishing I would have driven my 2014 today….. frustrating
Saw this thread on reddit a while ago about an AC not working.


Verdict was "UPDATE 2: Tech sent a video. AC discharge hose was leaking and causing warm air to blow."
 
#6 ·
FWIW, I have also seen in some cases that the refrigerant charge is low from the factory.
 
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Anyone else have trouble with their AC?

Mine is not very cold. The rear seems much colder but my front vents are not blowing very cold. My 2014 Pilot will freeze you out.
I’m sitting in my new 50k car and wishing I would have driven my 2014 today….. frustrating
Hello,
Funny you mentioned this as I noticed the same thing in my 23 Honda Pilot Touring. I’m in AZ and the temperatures are starting to creep up and it just doesn’t feel as cold as other vehicles. I’ve owned the pilot for 3 weeks now. I checked the templates coming out of the air vents and it was 48 degrees. Outside temperature was 83 degrees.
Wondering if this is normal with the new refrigeratiant
 
#9 ·
Interesting. Just found this thread because I've had a similar experience and was doing some research. Bought a 2023 Pilot Touring in April here in Kansas City, and the temps are getting into the 90's this week. AC doesn't blow cold enough....but mostly when idle or at stops. Works pretty good when driving on the highway, but in stop and go traffic in the heat, it never really cools down enough. I know some of that is to be expected, but it's much warmer than any of the other cars I've owned.

Just made an appointment to get it looked at next Thursday. I'll update this post with what the dealership finds.
 
#11 ·
I agree, though this is my first Honda. The a/c in the Pilot is much colder than that of my old 2020 Pathfinder.
 
#19 ·
This is what I experienced with my 2019 accord when i first got it in Aug of 2019. Had it on econ mode to save on fuel during my commute but with the hot temps i ended up turning off to stay a bit cooler"

From the Pilots Manual pg 549:

1ECON Mode
While in ECON mode, the climate control system will
be less effective and the vehicle slower to accelerate.
 
#14 ·
Update: Just heard back from the dealer...evidently mine is testing within normal specs. Technician claims it registers 42 degrees at the vent. I'm not so sure, but I guess I won't argue. Maybe it is just the newer freon that makes it feel warmer?

I'll double check with a thermometer in my driveway and see if I get 42 degrees.
 
#17 ·
2023 honda pilot trailsport...ac condenser leaked...then ac compressor failed...now ac compressor clutch has seized. Shop said system was severely overcharged from the factory. Vehicle has 1600 miles. Sounds like possible recall coming according to shop. This is my first Honda...so far not impressed.
 
#18 ·
2023 honda pilot trailsport...ac condenser leaked...then ac compressor failed...now ac compressor clutch has seized. Shop said system was severely overcharged from the factory. Vehicle has 1600 miles. Sounds like possible recall coming according to shop. This is my first Honda...so far not impressed.
Hopefully, when these issues are being presented to dealers they are testing the system pressures instead of just using a thermometer at the vents. Too much or not enough refrigerant can wreak havoc on the system.
 
#20 ·
Trail sport here.. best window tint you can get and a/c not cool enough. Takes a long time for vehicle to cool down. Not enjoyable. Our past cars been ice cold within 10 minutes at the vent. Pilot only gets ice cold if outside temp is under 90 degrees. Will take it in soon.

Normal mode
 
#29 ·
Have you taken it in and we're they able to do fix the issue? I have a 2023 Pilot and if it's been parked in the sun, it just can't cook down even after driving 15 mins to pick up daughter at school and 15 mins home. I realize it's been over 103* here in Texas, but my other cars have been able to handle it and cool down in less than 10 mins.
 
#21 ·
2023 Elite here. Vent temp is 60.6 after running for 30 minutes (outside temp was 94). Be taking it in. Def getting rid of it if they state it’s normal, vehicle will literally not cool down if it’s in the sun/sitting in traffic
 
#27 ·
Have you taken it in and we're they able to do fix the issue? I have a 2023 Pilot and if it's been parked in the sun, it just can't cook down even after driving 15 mins to pick up daughter at school and 15 mins home. I realize it's been over 103* here in Texas, but my other cars have been able to handle it and cool down in less than 10 mins.
 
#28 ·
Yeah took it in, they stated everything checked out. Im in vegas so similar temps. It wouldnt even cool down if it was 95 out.

traded it in two weeks ago for a sienna, which is nice and cold (without tint, pilot had ceramic all around including windshield and couldnt get cold)
 
#31 ·
Anyone else have trouble with their AC?

Mine is not very cold. The rear seems much colder but my front vents are not blowing very cold. My 2014 Pilot will freeze you out.
I’m sitting in my new 50k car and wishing I would have driven my 2014 today….. frustrating
Anyone else have trouble with their AC?

Mine is not very cold. The rear seems much colder but my front vents are not blowing very cold. My 2014 Pilot will freeze you out.
I’m sitting in my new 50k car and wishing I would have driven my 2014 today….. frustrating
I got in my 2023 pilot trail sport this afternoon and the air condition would not work. Then I noticed my blind spot information is not working. Then I noticed my idle stop is not working and then I noticed the volume for the radio doesn't work on the steering wheel then I noticed The voice command button does not work and then I notice the rotating wheel has no function. I got this vehicle in March.
 
#32 ·
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My 2019 accord had something similar happen when it was a year old; wipers, safety sense, radio and a few other things stopped working. It was the body control module and had to be replaced. It was a recall item and I got the notice from Honda the day I dropped it off at the dealer to get fixed.
 
#34 ·
I asked a salesman about this very point in 2007 when I bought a CRV. I told him that American manufactured cars seem to cool much quicker. He kinda winked and said Honda puts small A/C compressors in their vehicles to help with MPG ratings. Don’t know if it’s true but I like the response and have repeated many times.
 
#35 ·
It’s been 104-108 here the last few days and my Sienna has no issues cooling down (sitting at idle waiting for kids pickup mind you). Pilot never accomplished this when I had it. So I’d believe they have a smaller AC system than is really needed for hot climates
 
#37 ·
My air conditioning is no cooling enough and I noticed they are two water draining tubes one for the front and the other for the back and the one for the back it’s not draining any water I just have the car for a month. Anyone else have the same problem with the water draining
 
#38 · (Edited)
This is my take on the not cold AC systems. In short AC system can only cool down the ambient air by 15-20 degrees. So if the temp inside your car is 110-20 your air will only be 90 coming out of the vent, as the inside temp lower so will the air coming out of your vent. To maximize the cooling effect please try to the following. Roll down your windows for 30 secs as you first get into your car on a hot summer day to lower the interior temp from your car sitting in the burning summer sun. This will bring your inside temp down to at least outside temp instead of making your car cool down from 114 degrees or even hotter. Next would be to blast your AC system to the directional vents only and direct the air straight at you. This will cause the removal of latent heat which means that even though the temp inside the car is 85 degrees it will feel alot colder than what it really is also known as the "wind chill effect". Hence I used the word "feel" so next would be to have the air recycle mode on and make sure your cabin filter clean which will allow the warm air to move over the AC coil to allow the system to work properly. I hope you find this information helpful.
 
#42 ·
I have a 2024 SE, and I've noticed the same issue with the AC. It just does not seem very cold compared to my 2013 Honda CRV. According to a Goodyear tech that I talked to, the AC will lose about 3% of it's effectiveness every year, meaning the initial Freon of 40 psi will drop each year. I'm planning on taking mine to Goodyear since I trust them versus the dealer. As others have said, it could be the new Freon.