[cintocrunch]

2022 Honda Civic debuts with cleaner look, better tech, improved driving

Honda has unveiled the 11th generation Civic for the 2022 model year with a fresh design, simple interior, new tech and improved engines and chassis.

www.autoblog.com

What do you guys think? I think with everyone going to the swoopy fastback style sedan that the 2011 Sonata pioneered it is really refreshing to see a really clean, not busy with lines all over the place, formal sedan make a return. I think it is quite a good looking car that looks like it should cost more than it will. I think the Sport model wheels are similar to the old TL-S waffle weaves, which I am quite fond of. And the interior I also find to be quite attractive, again showing that a clean design can look much better than an overly busy design.

My biggest disappointment, though it should come as no surprise with Honda recently axing it from the Accord as well, the manual is dead in the mainstream models. Nothing official on Si and Type R models yet, but I hope at least they retain a manual transmission.

 

[Jack Vogt]

It looks much more premium than the previous generation, possibly a little bigger too.
As far as manuals go, I enjoy knowing how to drive them, but I’ve paid my dues. I’m happy with an automatic.

 

[Nail Grease]

Like the looks.
Like the interior.
Nice when it's new.
I wouldn't expect it to be a good car much past 150k.

 

[briantii]

Looks soooo much better than the old one and most of the Japanese cars even. They all try to out spaceship each other. I’m so sick of every economy or family car having more vents and angles than a Countach. It doesn’t look fast, it just looks dumb. Simple, clean, attractive. Much, much better.

 

[plplplpl]

Meh, wish they still made my mom's early '90s Civic in the original Cappuccino color. Simple, clean, attractive.

 

[Nail Grease]

Meh, wish they still made my mom's early '90s Civic in the original Cappuccino color. Simple, clean, attractive.

😥 Picture makes me sad.
I'd buy a 91 Civic LX again. The seats weren't great, but it wouldn't fail you.

 

[xGS]

Meh, wish they still made my mom's early '90s Civic in the original Cappuccino color. Simple, clean, attractive.

😥 Picture makes me sad.
I'd buy a 91 Civic LX again. The seats weren't great, but it wouldn't fail you.

Do the two of you yearn for the days before four-wheel disc brakes and ABS?

 

[cintocrunch]

Meh, wish they still made my mom's early '90s Civic in the original Cappuccino color. Simple, clean, attractive.

I prefer the 5th gen 2 door hatchback and the 6th gen Si... of course I'm partial to the 8th gen Si since I owned one and felt like a racecar driver shifting at 8,900 RPM.

And my favorite styled Honda of all time is the early-mid 80's Accord 3 door hatch...

 

[Nail Grease]

Do the two of you yearn for the days before four-wheel disc brakes and ABS?

Funny you bring that up. My 2004 Civic that I gave away, was equipped with drum brakes in the rear. I do dislike drum brakes, lol. I believe that the redesigned 05 still had drum brakes on the rear, while the Acura version had disc brakes all around. You could actually convert your Civic to disc brakes on the rear by changing out the parts from an Acura CSX.

 

[Jack Vogt]

I have no reason to believe this car wouldn't make it past 150k miles. I don't know if it has a CVT, but I know Honda has done a pretty good job with them and there haven't been too many failures. I also think they've worked out the initial problems on the 1.5T engines as well.

 

[cintocrunch]

I have no reason to believe this car wouldn't make it past 150k miles. I don't know if it has a CVT, but I know Honda has done a pretty good job with them and there haven't been too many failures. I also think they've worked out the initial problems on the 1.5T engines as well.

I tend to agree with this... I haven't heard any reliability issues with Honda's CVT and the 1.5T issues, while disappointing, seem to be sorted as well. Personally if I was getting one I'd be looking at the Sport with the K20 and (if I can dream) a manual transmission.

 

[Nail Grease]

I have no reason to believe this car wouldn't make it past 150k miles. I don't know if it has a CVT, but I know Honda has done a pretty good job with them and there haven't been too many failures. I also think they've worked out the initial problems on the 1.5T engines as well.

I tend to agree with this... I haven't heard any reliability issues with Honda's CVT and the 1.5T issues, while disappointing, seem to be sorted as well. Personally if I was getting one I'd be looking at the Sport with the K20 and (if I can dream) a manual transmission.

Turbo pressure causing engine oil to become diluted with fuel. Requires more frequent oil changes. I have little faith in CVT transmissions. Add in all of the digital equipment, ya, I don't have confidence in this vehicle long term.

 

[cintocrunch]

Turbo pressure causing engine oil to become diluted with fuel. Requires more frequent oil changes. I have little faith in CVT transmissions. Add in all of the digital equipment, ya, I don't have confidence in this vehicle long term.

Honda sorted that out so no longer a great concern. DI is hard on oil as well and most forums I am on have found more frequent oil changes to be beneficial.

CVT - I think years and years of Nissan and Subaru having horrendous CVTs have really soured people. I've been in a number of the Hondas with it and it is much better than the Subarus and Nissans I've been in. Additionally, the 1.5T paired with the CVT is a pretty good combination, the low torque keeps it from revving as high and moaning along.

Time will tell on the digital equipment. All manufacturers are doing this so we don't have much of a choice.

 

[Jack Vogt]

Honda sorted that out so no longer a great concern. DI is hard on oil as well and most forums I am on have found more frequent oil changes to be beneficial.

CVT - I think years and years of Nissan and Subaru having horrendous CVTs have really soured people. I've been in a number of the Hondas with it and it is much better than the Subarus and Nissans I've been in. Additionally, the 1.5T paired with the CVT is a pretty good combination, the low torque keeps it from revving as high and moaning along.

Time will tell on the digital equipment. All manufacturers are doing this so we don't have much of a choice.

I drove a friends 2017 CR-V and the CVT was very nice. I drove a 2017 Altima and it was so unenjoyable to drive. The general consensus is Honda (and Toyota) do CVTs very well.

 

[bdozer1965]

I have no reason to believe this car wouldn't make it past 150k miles. I don't know if it has a CVT, but I know Honda has done a pretty good job with them and there haven't been too many failures. I also think they've worked out the initial problems on the 1.5T engines as well.

I agree, someone is watching too many Scotty Kilmer videos LOL

 

[briantii]

Sorry, my favorite Honda has gotta be between the Prelude Type SH and the 94+ Integra GS-R.

 

[21PILOTs]

the new civic is accord sized, yes is bigger. the accord must now become ?, pilot sized?
like the gauge cluster. thats about it, looks generic. but a step in styling progression.

 

[plplplpl]

Do the two of you yearn for the days before four-wheel disc brakes and ABS?

It's the styling, man, the styling. That and the color.



BTW, my '64 Plymouth Valiant had drum brakes all around.

 

[xGS]

BTW, my '64 Plymouth Valiant had drum brakes all around.

Made for some excitement when braking after driving through deeper puddles.

 

[plplplpl]

Oh, you bet. I had to start contemplating coming to a full stop as soon as the sign or light entered my field of vision.