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Hi Folks!

For few reasons, I'm considering purchasing a Smittybilt Gen 2 Overlander XL tent to install on my Gen 3 Pilot.
The tent is approximately47"W x 76"L x 11" H and 150lbs in weight. Given the length, it would stretches from just above the shark fin antenna and would cover a few inches of the sunroof.

I'm hoping someone can help me cover a few questions:

1) For those who have factory rails and the OEM cross bars are the bars raised enough that a large flat load placed on them would clear the shark fin antenna on the back antenna with sufficient clearance not to rub/hit it (i.e. >1inch).

2) Do the OEM cross bars have any flex, or are they rigid?

3) Has anyone installed/driven with a roof top tent or other load of similar size on their Gen 3 pilot? Anything to look out for? Any recommendations for mounting?

Your input is greatly appreciated-I've looked up many forums but can't seem to find much insight with respect to the Honda Pilot, nor similarly sized cars (although people seem to be installing them on Subaru Outbacks.....)

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I have a Yakima Skybox 21 that has enough clearance from the sunroof and shark fin antenna. Most roof boxes will clear it.

I’d love to find out if the tent will be accommodating to the crossbars, but it’s curved and me personally I’m not sure if it’ll work. I hope it does as I’d want to get one!!!

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Subscribed / interested to see what will work out on the Pilot. On Jeep/Overlanders they run the Rhino rack which is a flat platform
 

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I have a Yakima Skybox 21 that has enough clearance from the sunroof and shark fin antenna. Most roof boxes will clear it.

I’d love to find out if the tent will be accommodating to the crossbars, but it’s curved and me personally I’m not sure if it’ll work. I hope it does as I’d want to get one!!!

Attached images to help you get an idea

Thank you for taking the time to take pictures; they're super helpful and exactly what I was looking for. It seems there would be about 2 inches clearance (guesstimate) seeing how the picture is taken from below cross bar level.

I'm not too concerned about the curve, as I figure I can get longer bolts if needed and add spacers to prevent the middle of the tent sitting on the top of the arch. The bolts attach to a railing on the tent itself anyway which reduces the distance.

Do the rails have any flex to them or are they very rigid?



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Just measured my factory crossbars. The rear bar is just below 3inches. The fin is around 3/4 of an inch. The bars dont flex. I believe the max recommended weight is 150lbs
 

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Thank you for taking the time to take pictures; they're super helpful and exactly what I was looking for. It seems there would be about 2 inches clearance (guesstimate) seeing how the picture is taken from below cross bar level.

I'm not too concerned about the curve, as I figure I can get longer bolts if needed and add spacers to prevent the middle of the tent sitting on the top of the arch. The bolts attach to a railing on the tent itself anyway which reduces the distance.

Do the rails have any flex to them or are they very rigid?



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These OEM crossbars are rigid (very firm). It might be best to seek non OEM crossbars as they are flat.
 

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Hey guys, hang on a second... the OEM roof bars allow a maximum 165lbs distributed evenly.

With the tent alone thats fine but if you raise and start having adults climbing in... that will far exceed the limit... does the tent anchor anywhere else other than the roof racks when its open? I couldnt tell and the ladder isnt going to provide much support esp not for up to 700lbs that the tent is rated for...


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Hey guys, hang on a second... the OEM roof bars allow a maximum 165lbs distributed evenly.

With the tent alone thats fine but if you raise and start having adults climbing in... that will far exceed the limit... does the tent anchor anywhere else other than the roof racks when its open? I couldnt tell and the ladder isnt going to provide much support esp not for up to 700lbs that the tent is rated for...


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Thanks all for the added info.

With respect to the weight limit: it's a topic that comes up often and there are many articles to address it, but as a quick summary it's the difference between static and dynamic loads. The factory roof/racks are rated to support a 165lb load when the car is moving, but this translates to a higher capacity if the car is stationary when the load is applied.
 

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These OEM crossbars are rigid (very firm). It might be best to seek non OEM crossbars as they are flat.
This is the rack I'm considering: Go Rhino flat roof rack is universal fit and mounts onto the OEM crossbars. It will provide a flat surface for tent and other applications. Light-weight, rust-free aluminum construction. For a bit more the Pioneer
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Rhino Rack could be made to work with some modifications.
 

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This is the rack I'm considering: Go Rhino flat roof rack is universal fit and mounts onto the OEM crossbars. It will provide a flat surface for tent and other applications. Light-weight, rust-free aluminum construction. For a bit more the Pioneer View attachment 144647 View attachment 144650
Rhino Rack could be made to work with some modifications.
That rack looks pretty cool but don't think it would work with a roof tent. The one you show uses up 45lbs of your overall 165lb roof carrying capacity, and probably won't add much benefit when used on conjunction with a roof tent anyway.
 

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That rack looks pretty cool but don't think it would work with a roof tent. The one you show uses up 45lbs of your overall 165lb roof carrying capacity, and probably won't add much benefit when used on conjunction with a roof tent anyway.
The topic of static weight and dynamic weight needs to be investigated further. Assuming the Pilot has a dynamic load max of 160lb the static load may be more. I’m following this discussion for more information on this subject. My plans will have to be adjusted if roof top tent is not okay.
 

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Wow. That's pretty cool. Can't say that I would ever go with that personally, but that is a pretty nifty setup. How long does it take to put up?
 

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Very cool! Being taller I love the size of that thing.
 

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Quick update: the tent has been installed and used already a few times...working out pretty well with the factory cross bars. No flex out of the bars. Warm and dry off the ground. Tent is pretty good quality. Can recommend. 🙂
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I've seen people use this or something similar. Looks nice!
For $2K, it better be LOL.
 

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The car can easily support the weight of tent and people, but the rails cannot. Theyre made of PVC or similar. (Crossbars are aluminum)
It would be the rails which fail first in this setup. Remove the rail covers and see for yourself. The weight of this rooftop setup is hanging by eight 8mm allen bolts threaded into PVC.
What this whole setup needs, is alu or steel rails.
 

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Wow. That's pretty cool. Can't say that I would ever go with that personally, but that is a pretty nifty setup. How long does it take to put up?
Takes about 5 minutes to set up, about 10-15 for teardown and packing. Not too bad as most of it can be done from within the tent, so even with a downpour can set up and tear down without getting too wet (as happened once already).

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The car can easily support the weight of tent and people, but the rails cannot. Theyre made of PVC or similar. (Crossbars are aluminum)
It would be the rails which fail first in this setup. Remove the rail covers and see for yourself. The weight of this rooftop setup is hanging by eight 8mm allen bolts threaded into PVC.
What this whole setup needs, is alu or steel rails.
I had similar concerns, but the Honda crossbars are pretty solid (thick, and I think reinforced with steel), and they are not sitting on or mounted to PVC, but instead a steel base that's under the rail cap. The bolts are of good quality so I'm not worried about them shearing off.


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I had similar concerns, but the Honda crossbars are pretty solid (thick, and I think reinforced with steel), and they are not sitting on or mounted to PVC, but instead a steel base that's under the rail cap. The bolts are of good quality so I'm not worried about them shearing off.


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Crossbars are hollow. The base under the rail cap is not steel, its PVC. I just installed all of this on my EX-L.
Just voicing my concerns. If it holds up over time, good on ya!
 
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