[litesnsrns]

Hello everyone,
I was having an issue with my check engine light. After a few days it would turn off & go back to normal. I would call the dealer & they would tell me to bring it in but by the time I would the light would turn off. They instructed me the next time the light came on to drive it to the dealer & not to turn the vehicle off so I did. They found the issue, they had to replace all of the fuel injectors WOW! The vehicle has 40,000 miles mostly highway driving. I asked the service writer if that was normal & he informed me he has seen this on several pilots. Thank God for the Honda extended warranty I purchased or It would have cost over $1200 to fix. Has anyone else had this issue?

 

[Dorian Latawiec]

My 2016 pilot has 60000mi on it and is exhibiting the same symptoms. My dealership also narrowed it down to fuel injectors. Unfortunately my aftermarket warranty is claiming it doesn't cover them. .

 

[AussieSteve]

Hi, litesnsrns and Dorian,

I'm currently having this issue, carbon deposits on fuel injector #4. The dealer says all of the fuel injectors and the fuel rail need to be replaced, cost: ~$2700. I have an extended warranty, through The Warranty Group, but they are claiming that the damage was caused by running the car on low grade fuel. The only fuel I have ever used is the Honda-recommended 87 octane, so their claim makes no sense. Anyway, the car only has 41000 miles on it, kind of surprised that I'm facing this issue on a car so new.

litesnrns, just curious, who was you extended warranty with? I'm going to try to escalate this through Honda, given that my extended warranty is apparently useless. If not for the sake of 5000 miles, this would be covered under the factory warranty (the car is less than 36 months old).

-Steve.

 

[Cweinhold1]

Hey all! I had the same problem with my 2016 Elite. The check engine - emissions problem warning popped up, first at 41k. This required a software update to fix and the dealer was nice enough to not charge me even though updates are not covered under warranty (I don’t have the extended warranty). At 42k, check engine - emissions pops up again. This time dealership tells me 2 of the 6 fuel injectors need replaced - $1200 and not covered under power train warranty. Honda Customer Service was less than helpful. Plus I hated the 9-speed transmission - that’s a whole other story. My gut was telling me this issue was not the end of the check engine light. Rather than put $1200 into a 2 year old vehicle, I traded the Elite for a left-over 2017 EX-L with Navi and loving it!

 

[geopro18]

Me too

I just had the same problem with the 2016 Pilot. Right around 44k miles. My check engine light also went on and they were going to replace the catalytic convertor. My dealer was called by Honda and told not to replace the catalytic convertor (which was the code they were getting) and instead the fuel injector issue and hoses needed to be replaced. Any thoughts on this one?
I was told by the dealer that the low grade gas he was referring to that was the cause of the problem was gas from any station other than Exxon, Chevron, or maybe Shell. In other words no 7-eleven, Racetrack, circle K, Costco, or Citgo gas. 87 grade was perfectly fine but don't use those gas stations. Seems a little odd that they have designed a fuel injector that will not work with particular gas stations gas but that will work with the base grades of gas. Something is really fishy on this if you ask me.

 

[Aaron O]

I Have a 2016 Pilot and had the emissions/engine light come on at 90k. The catylitic converter was replaced under the extended warranty. Now, at 112k the light is back on and the direct injection system needs to be replaced. Estimated cost $1200 plus tax. The dealership did suggest to try a fuel cleaner for a few tanks to see if it solves the problem. Not a good sign when this happens after two years of highway driving.

 

[ski_rush]

Just bought a '16 Pilot. Engine light came on after 2 weeks, and it went into a "limp" mode. Brought it to dealer and he said they needed to replace the injectors. Thank god it was covered under warranty, but very annoying since I just bought the dang car.

 

[Runningfine]

All, same thing happened to me. All lights came on. I have a 2016 with 50,000 miles. They said misfire on cylinder number 4 and I need all fuel injectors replaced as a set. I am out of warranty range so they want $1750 for this repair. Any other updates from anyone? There are also a couple threads in the 2016 forum about these types of issues. Seems like there is an issue with the 2016 pilots and the fuel injectors.

 

[Tahoefever]

Holy Smoke batman this Pilot is too new to have the injectors fail at 40k+ ... Glad i decided to buy the 15

 

[[email protected]]

Me too. My 2016 Honda Pilot Emissions light came on. Luckily I'm at just 30,000 miles. Strange though..I thought Honda was considered strong and reliable. Things like this aren't supposed to happen Hondas after 30,000 miles..Hope this isn't a sign of things to come.

 

[No More Hondas]

My 2016 pilot elite just had all the fuel injectors replaced at 41,000 miles. Told me it wasn't covered under the warranty because it didn't throw "an emissions code" so they were out of warranty at 36,000 miles. Talk about splitting hairs, the fuel injectors failed! This is in addition to the air flow meter that handles the gas/air mix failing at 39,000 miles and the catalytic converter failing at 41,000 miles. So no warranty coverage, but Honda "understands" why I might be upset. As far as I am concerned, I am done with Honda. Grew up with them, sold my father's accord with over 220,000 miles when he could no longer drive, now done. No more Honda's in my family. I hope Honda "understands" my position when I change over to Toyota or Subaru. Maybe even Hyundai

 

[Rocky]

So what part of the 60k powertrain warranty doesn't cover defective fuel injectors?

http://owners.honda.com/Documentum/...18_Honda_Warranty_Basebook_AWL05251_FINAL.pdf

 

[kmc27]

I had the Emissions System Problem warning light come on my 2016 Pilot Touring at 49,500 miles. Car has also been in a few times cause of problem with idle stop start where car completely stalls after take foot off brake and put it on gas pedal. Have to put car in park, press brake, and restart the car. Dealer did a software update for that in October 2017, but started having the problem again recently so brought it in again. Dealer didn't find any new software updates so Honda told dealer to replace fuel injectors which they are doing tomorrow. Fuel injector replacement covered by warranty.

 

[litesnsrns1]

Fuel injectors fail on Pilot

My honda pilot touring started popping the Emission problem message and i took to the dealer. Dealer could replace all the fuel injectors and said this is reported in few cars of this model. I kind of feel that i lost the pick up on my car or the smoothness i had earlier is not the same. Not sure if others had any experience of having problems after replacing the injectors.

 

[jkconstantino]

Our 2016 Pilot at 32K miles had the Check Engine light come on, with the emission problem listed. We took it in and the dealer "repaired" it. The next day, the warning came on again and we brought in back in. The dealer replaced all of the injectors after having to contact a Honda tech to diagnose the issue, which took three days and a 40 mile "test drive". I have a 2007 Honda Civic which runs great at 165K. I am concerned about the Pilot. We were lucky with it being under warranty.
It will be interesting to see how many posts about this issue.

 

[Carcar]

My 2016 pilot elite just had all the fuel injectors replaced at 41,000 miles. Told me it wasn't covered under the warranty because it didn't throw "an emissions code" so they were out of warranty at 36,000 miles. Talk about splitting hairs, the fuel injectors failed! This is in addition to the air flow meter that handles the gas/air mix failing at 39,000 miles and the catalytic converter failing at 41,000 miles. So no warranty coverage, but Honda "understands" why I might be upset. As far as I am concerned, I am done with Honda. Grew up with them, sold my father's accord with over 220,000 miles when he could no longer drive, now done. No more Honda's in my family. I hope Honda "understands" my position when I change over to Toyota or Subaru. Maybe even Hyundai

Yes. I have over 55k on my 2016 Pilot EXL AWD and just had the injectors replaced under full warranty. Was going to be around $2,000. Not sure if it was covered under powertrain or emissions. Nonetheless, I had the same problem at 44k and the tech said I ran bad gas ( missing on number 4) and cleared the codes only to last for a month until all the lights came on again. That cost me $300. Funny how it changed. One note to consider. I asked the tech if he put the same stock injectors in that were built for the car originally.....he said no that they improved them. Might be why I waited about 8 days for the parts to arrive from Japan. It seems to me that the warranty coverage depends from dealer to dealer. I made it a point when I brought my car in the second time that this problem is all over the pilot forums on the 2016 pilots and that it has and should be covered. I would call multiple dealers, explain the problems and ask if it is covered under warranty before taking your car in. I fortunately live where I can drive to many dealers within an hour. Thanks to all the people that post on this forum...it has helped me tremendously.

 

[Bonejamin]

Fuel injectors need replacement on 2017 Pilot with only 10K miles!!! Fortunately this is still under the new car warranty but I am shocked to hear this is happening on what I thought was a quality manufactured vehicle. We had been using regular gas (87 octane) from our local Kroger grocery store but I guess we'll need to switch to 89 octane "plus" grade.

 

[zroger73]

So what part of the 60k powertrain warranty doesn't cover defective fuel injectors?

http://owners.honda.com/Documentum/...18_Honda_Warranty_Basebook_AWL05251_FINAL.pdf

As Honda's warranty booklet states, the powertrain warranty covers the engine's "cylinder block and head and all internal parts, timing gears and gaskets, timing chain/belt and cover, flywheel, valve covers, oil pan, oil pump, intake and exhaust manifolds, engine mounts, engine/powertrain control module, water pump, fuel pump, seals and gaskets." There's no mention of fuel injectors in the powertrain warranty.

The fuel injectors are external parts and covered under the new vehicle limited warranty for 3 years or 36,000 miles except in California, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, or Washington where they are covered for 7 years or 70,000 miles. The fuel injectors are also covered by the Honda Care extended warranty and by some third-party warranties.

 

[GodsPilot]

*** CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT *** Honda KNOWS this is a problem with the 16 Pilot. The dealership told me $1,814.56 to replace injectors. I wish I would look like paying that. I purchased a new car for peace of mind. I called Honda Corp and filed a complaint. 3 days later I receive a call saying my cost would be $620, they would "cover" the rest. Seems fair to some, but I still think this is class action worthy. I have owed 6 brand new Hondas = 2 Accords, 2 Crosstours, Civic, and now this rachet Pilot.. Honda ATV, Generator and Lawn mower. Never once had fuel injectors go bad in any of them.
I say the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Call and complain

 

[Suderoni]

Call Honda and file a complaint--this is a real issue

*** CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT *** Honda KNOWS this is a problem with the 16 Pilot. The dealership told me $1,814.56 to replace injectors. I wish I would look like paying that. I purchased a new car for peace of mind. I called Honda Corp and filed a complaint. 3 days later I receive a call saying my cost would be $620, they would "cover" the rest. Seems fair to some, but I still think this is class action worthy. I have owed 6 brand new Hondas = 2 Accords, 2 Crosstours, Civic, and now this rachet Pilot.. Honda ATV, Generator and Lawn mower. Never once had fuel injectors go bad in any of them.
I say the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Call and complain

2016 Pilot owner here. Thanks for the guidance. After months of the emissions system light going on and off and three trips to the dealer to inquire about it, yesterday 5 lights went off (emissions system, all wheel drive, power steering, hill start assist, and trailer stability assist). The lights went off this morning (naturally). Took it to the dealer, they investigated and said it needs new fuel injectors for $1500. I called baloney. I've filed a complaint with Honda and am waiting for a call back.

The dealer did tell me Honda issued a "service bulletin" about this issue three months ago. Also of note is that one part necessary for repair is on "national backorder," so no idea when it could even get fixed.