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Took to dealer with 75k for the torque converter judder with tsb 17-014. They fixed it under warranty. Now pilot has 87k miles and it’s throwing a transmission code in pic. Can’t find any info if this is covered under another extended warranty from the tsb or not. 13k miles and problems again is crazy to me. Thanks! Text Font Technology Document
 

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Took to dealer with 75k for the torque converter judder with tsb 17-014. They fixed it under warranty. Now pilot has 87k miles and it’s throwing a transmission code in pic. Can’t find any info if this is covered under another extended warranty from the tsb or not. 13k miles and problems again is crazy to me. Thanks! View attachment 136922
Ok, so they did the drain and fill 3 times on the DW-1 fluid. Since you drove 13k, I'd get a clear glass sample of that fluid. If it's black, you got more problems than the code.
 

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Yes they did. it’s starting to slip a bit so it mostly likely needs a transmission. It’s over the 8 year 80k warranty they put on these. I have no problem throwing in a new trans, just can’t find anything if they extend the warranty since the fluid flush and update. I’m just impatient and don’t want to wait till Monday to call lol didn’t know if this has happened to anyone after they already had the warranty work done. I don’t want to touch it if there’s still some kind of extra warranty.
 

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Yes they did. it’s starting to slip a bit so it mostly likely needs a transmission. It’s over the 8 year 80k warranty they put on these. I have no problem throwing in a new trans, just can’t find anything if they extend the warranty since the fluid flush and update. I’m just impatient and don’t want to wait till Monday to call lol didn’t know if this has happened to anyone after they already had the warranty work done. I don’t want to touch it if there’s still some kind of extra warranty.
If your out of warranty, what do you have to loose then? Dump that DW-1 and do a 3 time drain and fill with Full Synthetic Valvoline MaxLife or Amalie Universal Synthetic and see if you can save it. And if you haven't yet, use a VCM disabler. It just might work.
Shift Solenoids can be replaced.
 

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If your out of warranty, what do you have to loose then? Dump that DW-1 and do a 3 time drain and fill with Full Synthetic Valvoline MaxLife or Amalie Universal Synthetic and see if you can save it. And if you haven't yet, use a VCM disabler. It just might work.
Shift Solenoids can be replaced.
I've just had the fluid changed in my 2016EXL and it was that dark. Prior to that I had 3 D&F done at 20K, then 2 more at 30K. And now, only after 10K it is dark. Fluid at 30K has been analyzed and nothing abnormal found, besides it was quite sheared. And it was all DW1 of course. Soooo, south texas driving (houston and suburbs) takes the toll. Valvoline would be the cure???
 

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I've just had the fluid changed in my 2016EXL and it was that dark. Prior to that I had 3 D&F done at 20K, then 2 more at 30K. And now, only after 10K it is dark. Fluid at 30K has been analyzed and nothing abnormal found, besides it was quite sheared. And it was all DW1 of course. Soooo, south texas driving (houston and suburbs) takes the toll. Valvoline would be the cure???
I have Valvoline MaxLife ATF in mine right now out of desperation. I have no waranty on a 20k mile transmission because I bought my Pilot at auction and rebuilt it. The black fluid meant something was wrong. I've driven it about 4,500 miles and did the VCM deactivation and my troubles ended. No more slipping gears or eratic acting rpm gauge. The only side effect I see using MaxLife ATF is with this thinner fluid, the shifts are not as smooth. The viscosity of MaxLife is around 150. DW-1 is over 200. I'm seriously considering Amalie Universal Synthetic at around 180. Theoretically it should make for a smoother shift.
Where are you at in your warranty?
That amount of metallic silt on your magnet looks excessive.
 

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I have Valvoline MaxLife ATF in mine right now out of desperation. I have no waranty on a 20k mile transmission because I bought my Pilot at auction and rebuilt it. The black fluid meant something was wrong. I've driven it about 4,500 miles and did the VCM deactivation and my troubles ended. No more slipping gears or eratic acting rpm gauge. The only side effect I see using MaxLife ATF is with this thinner fluid, the shifts are not as smooth. The viscosity of MaxLife is around 150. DW-1 is over 200. I'm seriously considering Amalie Universal Synthetic at around 180. Theoretically it should make for a smoother shift.
Where are you at in your warranty?
That amount of metallic silt on your magnet looks excessive.
another year or 20K on the warranty. we drive 10k/yr on average.
 

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I have Valvoline MaxLife ATF in mine right now out of desperation. I have no waranty on a 20k mile transmission because I bought my Pilot at auction and rebuilt it. The black fluid meant something was wrong. I've driven it about 4,500 miles and did the VCM deactivation and my troubles ended. No more slipping gears or eratic acting rpm gauge. The only side effect I see using MaxLife ATF is with this thinner fluid, the shifts are not as smooth. The viscosity of MaxLife is around 150. DW-1 is over 200. I'm seriously considering Amalie Universal Synthetic at around 180. Theoretically it should make for a smoother shift.
Where are you at in your warranty?
That amount of metallic silt on your magnet looks excessive.
Also, why would you say amount of slime is excessive?
 

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MaxLife viscocity is probably not causing firmer shifts. Rather the friction modifer properties seem to be a compromis in order to make the fluid more "universal". Adequate but not exactly factory matched for DW-1 shift performance. Adding Lubeguard HFM, at about half the recommended amount, appears to bring the friction modifer close to DW-1, and smoother shifts.
 

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MaxLife viscocity is probably not causing firmer shifts. Rather the friction modifer properties seem to be a compromis in order to make the fluid more "universal". Adequate but not exactly factory matched for DW-1 shift performance. Adding Lubeguard HFM, at about half the recommended amount, appears to bring the friction modifer close to DW-1, and smoother shifts.
Your tempting me with an additive. I'm not easily persuaded. But in this case, I may give in.
Anything to fear?
 

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MaxLife viscocity is probably not causing firmer shifts. Rather the friction modifer properties seem to be a compromis in order to make the fluid more "universal". Adequate but not exactly factory matched for DW-1 shift performance. Adding Lubeguard HFM, at about half the recommended amount, appears to bring the friction modifer close to DW-1, and smoother shifts.
I dont see this being recomended for my vehicle.
 

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Thought I had to pay for a subscription for that. All this time. ¯\(ツ)
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