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The VTM-4 and check engine light came on two days ago. Took to dealer. Just got the call, said looked like 2 cylinders are misfiring and it is leaking oil. Recommend putting in a used engine for around $5000. That is not something we can do right now. Can anyone give us some insight on options?
Appreciate any advice.
 

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The VTM-4 and check engine light came on two days ago. Took to dealer. Just got the call, said looked like 2 cylinders are misfiring and it is leaking oil. Recommend putting in a used engine for around $5000. That is not something we can do right now. Can anyone give us some insight on options?
Appreciate any advice.
 

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Order a motor from JDM all there engines come straight from Japan and the most mileage that’s in them is 55000 miles and there around 1200$ and if you want the transmission with it it’s 1500 201-955-9556 or go there web site and go to a local shop and have them do the job about 1300 and if you think about it for 2500 you got yourself a new truck again
 

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Order a motor from JDM all there engines come straight from Japan and the most mileage that’s in them is 55000 miles and there around 1200$ and if you want the transmission with it it’s 1500 201-955-9556 or go there web site and go to a local shop and have them do the job about 1300 and if you think about it for 2500 you got yourself a new truck again
Thanks. I will check it out.
 

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got 2005 Pilot-
Look for and Find oil leak- maybe easy fix (valve cover gasket-like mine was).
how long since you had valves adjusted? Took care of my codes once done ($99 BlueDriver Scanner)
Don’t give up yet- Find The Problem!!
Let us know
 

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I’m assuming the dealer performed a diagnostic including reading the codes. Post what they reported.
 

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The VTM-4 and check engine light came on two days ago. Took to dealer. Just got the call, said looked like 2 cylinders are misfiring and it is leaking oil. Recommend putting in a used engine for around $5000. That is not something we can do right now. Can anyone give us some insight on options?
Appreciate any advice.
Is there any possibility that the misfire is caused by the need for a valve clearance adjustment?
Are there any other Honda dealers nearby where you could get a second opinion?
 

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I haven't done any diagnostics on your engine, BUT

Was it running bad? Or you took it in b/c of the CEL light and codes?

I could just about guarantee, it does NOT need a new engine!!
Especially if it was running OK. NO way.

My 08 Pilot gave me a CEL and I had the codes read at AutoZone- free and it
had missfires in ALL cylinders.
But, it ran fine!
I disconnected the battery and reconnected to clear the code.

After weeks and thousands of miles- it NEVER came back!
You know what I fixed?

NOTHING!
 

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Is there any possibility that the misfire is caused by the need for a valve clearance adjustment?
Are there any other Honda dealers nearby where you could get a second opinion?
With all due respect, I'm not saying it won't come back, but,
Check the air cleaner- change if real dirty, o/w- don't.
Clear the code and see if it comes back.

I know the valve clearance can and does cause the mis fire codes, BUT
If it runs OK, and doesn't make too much engine noise, Try nothing.
 
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All due respect, but I think your dealer may have hastily misread the CEL. :p

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oh that darn change engine light, aka the money light, gets you every time!
I'd pull the plugs on the cylinders that are misfiring to check their condition then maybe swap some of the ignition coils around. the VTM light can come on for various reasons. I believe the owner manual says a temp sensor in the differential can trigger it so maybe low or dirty fluid. My VTM light came on from a wheel speed sensor acting up but that also was accompanied by the ABS light I believe.
 

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Ya know how many, if not most shops make real money,
by doing shady things like diagnosing in unsuspecting customers!
then they fix small things, and charge you for big things, hence the make big $$.
If it runs OK, a misfire code usually is no big deal. I had 5 of the 6 misfire codes.
I did nothing, still hasn't come back on.
 

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Order a motor from JDM all there engines come straight from Japan and the most mileage that’s in them is 55000 miles and there around 1200$ and if you want the transmission with it it’s 1500 201-955-9556 or go there web site and go to a local shop and have them do the job about 1300 and if you think about it for 2500 you got yourself a new truck SUV again
There- fixed it for ya! LOL
 

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Before you start with JDM motors, check out the EGR passages on the motor you already have. Clogged EGR passages in the intake manifold can trigger both CEL and VTM4 lights. Clean the passages and see if the problem goes away
 

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I want to +1 the Valve Adjustment comment. I have a 2006 and had the same issue with the CEL and VTM-4 lights. It started intermittently on and off, one or both lights, but no noticeable issues in driving. Gradually over time it became more frequent and eventually started to have noticeable issues. Was getting several codes at the time. Replaces several inexpensive parts trying to troubleshoot. This went on for a good year. Eventually a friend came and helped me with a valve adjustment. It was like waving a magic wand. The old girl was back to running in top shape.

Couple years later i started having both lights come on again. This time i was registering an O2 sensor code, as well as communication bus failure or two. Replaced the O2 sensor and that solved everything. Definitely would start with the codes and highly consider a valve adjustment before replacing the engine.
 
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