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Im interested in purchasing a Pilot. I am wondering the difference between the years 2018 and 2019 and is the Elite worth the extra$. Im interested in the touring and higher trim.

im sure I can get a good deal purchasing toward the end of the year. Any news on the 2020?

Thanks for any feedback. Should be purchasing in the next few weeks.
 

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Well the 2019 models with its mid-gen changes just came out. I see no changes happening other than bug fixes on the 2020 a year from now. I just don't see Honda going to a 4 cylinder turbo or Hybrid any time soon. Pilots are one of their strongest sellers right now as is and I don't think they want to risk that trend till sales slow down.


We have a 2017 Elite that has been flawless. I have no desire to move to a 2019 just to gain a volume knob on the infotainment center and outside body changes.

You need to address the options you want and pick the trim level fills that.
 

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Well the 2019 models with its mid-gen changes just came out. I see no changes happening other than bug fixes on the 2020 a year from now. I just don't see Honda going to a 4 cylinder turbo or Hybrid any time soon. Pilots are one of their strongest sellers right now as is and I don't think they want to risk that trend till sales slow down.


We have a 2017 Elite that has been flawless. I have no desire to move to a 2019 just to gain a volume knob on the infotainment center and outside body changes.

You need to address the options you want and pick the trim level fills that.
Remote start on the HondaLink app. The new steering wheel/infotainment system, cabin talk system, new RES system. Second row heated seats on touring now. There are enough reasons.
 

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Thanks, going with the 2019 Elite. Went to my local dealership, they had one 19 Elite (white) in the back. Had everything I wanted. However, the back bumper is scraped in the paint pretty bad. Im sure the dealer will repaint. Probably going to test drive it and then just get the next one that arrives on the truck. I dont like buying test drive new vehicles.

Thanks all. Ill let you know when I buy and I'll post pics.
 

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Is 9 speed transmission and auto start stop still issue in 2019 touring and higher model? should I stick to 6 speed auto transmission?
 

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Is 9 speed transmission and auto start stop still issue in 2019 touring and higher model? should I stick to 6 speed auto transmission?
It’s hard telling, we need more buyers of the 19 to put miles on. Our 17 Touring shifted smoothly and flawlessly until it hit 14,000 miles, since then it’s had hiccups and really odd shifting behavior.
 

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I traded in my 2016 Touring with the 9spd in may for a 2017 Elite AWD. I had 28k miles on it with no transmission issues at all.
 

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18's will get thin on the ground. You might not find the trim/option/color combo you like as they get sold off.
Go drive both with the same spec that you like. Then look at the numbers. Hopefully the right answer will come clear.
 

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Remote start on the HondaLink app. The new steering wheel/infotainment system, cabin talk system, new RES system. Second row heated seats on touring now. There are enough reasons.
the only things really that stand out for me as a 17 touring owner on the new 19s are full array LED headlights (thats why the 16-18 elite LED headlight wasnt impressive and one of the reasons not worth going to the eilte especially wihtout a bench 2nd row) the improved powered tail gate with handsfree and finally be able to adjust opening.

the new dash and wheel of course is welcomed but not one of those gotta have it feature. the current CRV which we were close to buying it had similar setup. it gives a much more cooler factor having an instrument cluster that is mostly all screen, but function wise not much more. same for the steering wheel. no issues with the 16-18 model steering wheel.

the new infotainment is cool on the 19, as it matches that of the new odyssey and accord. But it seems like a big jump since the 16-18 was lacking. But because 17-18 at least had android auto and apple car play--which is becoming very important these days, its not much of a loss not to have the current. cabin talk is a gimmick, as is cabin watch in the odyssey (which id ont think is offered on the pilot) more cool factor gimmicks. The pilot i dont think is as long as the odyssey where your voice isnt going to reach the 3rd row. only cool thing i guess is if they are using hte headphones and they will hear you talk, but again not a situation i see often unlike using the headlights and tail gate (which of course I mentioned as top things that really only makes me miss not having the 19)

i think a lot of honda owners will admit, until the odyssey, new accord, and 19 pilot, hondalink has been worthless. so its cool you can remote start on the app, but do i see myself using it, having to pull out my phone, open the app, touch a few things instead of taking out keyfob and hold button--probably only a handful of times to show off to 16-18 owners lol

so although there are enough changes and new things on the 19, there isnt enough crucial must have for 16-18 owners to restart a loan, etc.

if there was a new engine on top of all the changes, then that would be a different story.
 

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hi all,
this is my 1st post altho i have been a lurker eversince<img src="http://www.piloteers.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
just got my 2019 exl with Nav and RES coming off from a 2016 touring lease. prior to it i have a 2013 exl lease. so id say i'm quite familiar with pilot<img src="http://www.piloteers.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smilie" class="inlineimg" />
we returned our touring 4 months earlier at almost 36,00 mile (max limit for 3 year lease) . it just goes to say it traveled a lot. florida, maine to canada..
it has all those symptoms of gear hunting, aggressive low gear, sunroof doen't close [email protected] miles and my only gripe that really affects my driving was whenever i brake, it has a moment wherein i feel the car goes faster before it hits the break. its like there is a space/void between braking.that was my major concern . i have to change my driving style by breaking earlier than usual to accomodate this issue on my car. button/electronic gears is something you'll get used to it, it ain't so bad
aside from that everything else was good. i have 3 kids seated at the 3rd row , eldest is 17 and no complains sitting on the 3rd row from NY to florida and back.
It s more of peace of mind switching from a 2016 touring and 2019 exl..as well as long term reliability since we financed this car already.
besides, the 2019 EXL with nav and Res feel smoother to drive, it has almost all features of the 16 touring except the exterior like wheel and chrome. the 2019 exl rear looks way better. the only thing i miss is when i reverse, it doesn't have an alarm sound. LED lights looks great and i prefer the amber turn signals on the 19th.
Again, reliability i will go for the standard transmission, external looks, of course the latest is almost always better altho you can always modify to your own taste whatever your have.
 
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