2012 2WD 19.2mpg@72mph?!

[bcicio]

I think the answer is pretty simple. If you drive 72 mph, even if the posted speed limit is 70, you will not get the vehicle-rated gas mileage. Unfortunately, the manufacturers do not consider each road's posted speed limit when they establish their mpg claims. The choice is, either slow down to near 55 mph to save gas or speed up to 72 mph to save time. Even if you had chosen a hybrid, you would still get way lower than the claimed vehicle-rated gas mileage if driving at 72 mph. But if you can't live with that, my only suggestion is to trade in the Pilot and buy electric. But, then, you can't expect to go as far on each "tank fill". Sorry, but that's the reality - at least at this point in technology.

[jmustico4]

I am not looking for sympathy or help, I am complaining about the poor gas mileage of my vehicle. Simply wondering if others are experiencing the same mileage or better. Yahooligan has expressed that he got markedly better mileage with a AWD pilot, mileage that I think my vehicle should at least duplicate. If you are going to infer incorrect information or insult me, simply do no post.

[pilot2013]

no two cars are same, I have 2013 2wd and I am getting 18.5 MPG.
This mileage is at me driving 60-65 miles per hour speed.
the only company whose cars come close to the mileage at speed 60-65 is Toyota.
if you drive a Toyota at 55-60 speed it will beat the EPA mileage.
I knew this before getting the pilot, i have been driving rental car daily for over 16 months now and have driven both Honda's and Toyota's. I know this is a pilot discussion. But I have friends who have 2012 odyssey 4wd ex-l which gives mileage of 23.5MPG. And that is me driving. we went to look at odyssey and fell in love with Pilot. There are few things which i am trying to get better mileage. I will post a scanned copy of it here. It comes from a hybrid Prius manual.

[2010exl]

Hey Pilot2013.......You don't have a hybrid, so the attached document above does not apply.

Also never heard of a 2012 odyssey with AWD.

To the original poster.......

Keep track of you mileage for a longer period of time. It will rule out discrepensies with fuel filler shut off. Set the tire pressure a little higher, I run 40 psi. Don't warm the car up, start it and drive within 30 seconds to 1 minute.

You may be doing these already, but they are just a few thoughts.

I get between 22 and 25 mpg with my 2010 EX-L AWD on the highway. There is a sweet spot right around 65 mph that works for me. Above 70 I see the mpg start to drop steadily to around 20-21

[pilot2013]

does everyone here have a high nose. Anybody with brains will read through it and then use only what applies. I don't think that includes you.

Originally Posted by 2010exl

Hey Pilot2013.......You don't have a hybrid, so the attached document above does not apply.

Also never heard of a 2012 odyssey with AWD.

To the original poster.......

Keep track of you mileage for a longer period of time. It's will rule out discrepensies with fuel filler shut off. Set the tire pressure a little higher, I run 40 psi. Don't warm the car up, start it and drive within 30 seconds to 1 minute.

You may be doing these already, but they are just a few thoughts.

I get between 22 and 25 mpg with my 2010 EX-L AWD on the highway. There is a sweet spot right around 65 mph that works for me. Above 70 I see the mpg start to drop steadily to around 20-21

[whizmo]

Originally Posted by jmustico4

I am not looking for sympathy or help, I am complaining about the poor gas mileage of my vehicle. Simply wondering if others are experiencing the same mileage or better.

If you're interested in a mileage survey, there is a very good one here:

Honda Pilot MPG Reports | Fuelly

As others have said, you can't draw too many conclusions based on a single trip and you can't rely on the computer being accurate until you can calibrate it against hand-computed data. There are two many variables - variance in the fuel slosh shutouts of the two different gas pumps involved, the attitude of the vehicle when it was being fueled, winds, traffic, terrain, etc. Especially wind - it is very difficult to make an overall assessment of whether a wind is headwind/tailwind and even a direct crosswind has a headwind component that slows the vehicle. A 5mph headwind at 70+ speeds can easily cost a couple mpg. (In reasonably flat terrain, how much weight you have in the interior of the vehicle generally isn't significant to highway mileage.) You have to gather information long-term and then see how you stand against the data.

72-mph cruising is not generally going to return the EPA highway fuel mileage rating. If everything is ideal, I'd estimate it should get 22-23 or so at this speed. The 3-4 mpg discrepency might be something wrong with your car, but I bet it is other factors that happened to break the wrong way on this particular trip. I'd certainly take more data - open an account on fuelly.com and start logging your fillups, it's especially easy if you have a smartphone - and if you the car can't break 20 mpg at 70, I'd take it in. Good luck.

- Mark

[2010exl]

Originally Posted by pilot2013

does everyone here have a high nose. Anybody with brains will read through it and then use only what applies. I don't think that includes you.

I've still never heard of an AWD odyssey.

[jmustico4]

Thanks to all who have posted useful, constructive, information! I'll give fully a try...

[Wisconsin]

Try removing the crossbars and see if your mpg goes up.

Pilot2013, SUV's mpg goes down the faster you drive more noticeably than a car does due to the increased wind resistance.

My 05 Acura TL will get 30mpg highway with the cruise set at 80.
The rated highway mpg is only 26.

If I set the cruise at 60 I bet I'd get about 34mpg.

[RinconVTR]

Originally Posted by pilot2013

does everyone here have a high nose. Anybody with brains will read through it and then use only what applies. I don't think that includes you.

I'm just going to start labeling guys like you trolls.

[pilot2013]

and i can label you ....., how does your label matter and how does your last comment help this thread. lets Stick to the topic.

Originally Posted by RinconVTR

I'm just going to start labeling guys like you trolls.

[pilot2013]

Is it standard with all Acura's or is your car a exception.
I would think crossbars probally reduce the millage by a mile or two max
on full tank, if they do. I did read some thread here where the cross bars
were turned the wrong way and it causing wind noise.

Originally Posted by Wisconsin

Try removing the crossbars and see if your mpg goes up.

Pilot2013, SUV's mpg goes down the faster you drive more noticeably than a car does due to the increased wind resistance.

My 05 Acura TL will get 30mpg highway with the cruise set at 80.
The rated highway mpg is only 26.

If I set the cruise at 60 I bet I'd get about 34mpg.

[mustasf]

Originally Posted by jmustico4

Topography was most def not a factor. We were on I-75 between Tampa and Naples FL, very flat road, clear day, approx side wind of 10mph. I am pretty sure we are not getting any type of "winter" mixed gas here in FL, also the speed limit down here is 70mph, if I had gone any slower than 72mph I would have been pushed off the road. And as previously stated there was not a thing in the vehicle. And its a 2WD LX, lightest of the bunch... This is BAD mileage. I have consistently gotten BETTER than manufactures mpg claims, with every vehicle I have ever owned, on the highway.

Yours is probbaly not broken in yet >>>i have a 2012 touring with 18k miles and I push it to 75 with better milage ! it got bettter at 12 k or so !

[N_Jay]

1) not broken in
2) Winter Fuel, or high Eth fuel (even in FL)
3) Cross bars (check direction), running boards, windows open, AC on, Hood deflector, etc.
3) Alignment: Even a slightly out of align car will get worse mileage (May be "in spec" but not optimum)
4) Driving style (Not just gas use (you said cruse control) but brake use and how steady the steering will affect MPG
5) Measurement errors.

[1YESfan]

The aerodynamic "brick" known as the Honda Pilot can be quite odd ( at least indicated mileage) when it comes to obtaining optimum/peak mileage. Sometimes running faster, despite increased wind resistance, has yielded better mileage for me which doesn't really make much sense in a vehicle this flat and square breaking a large hole going down the road.

I find a good coat of wax is good for an extra 2 m.p.g.. ;-)