Pilot vs mdx towing - Honda Pilot

osudelt69 · 10-09-2011, 10:25 PM

Was lookng at owners manual for 11 pilot and 11 mdx and saw the mdx is rated for 5000 lbs trailer towing. Other than the engine, why the difference?

pearsonrj · 10-09-2011, 10:38 PM

Frame, brakes, axle, tire and wheel load ratings. Incremental differences in all of those things will allow for a higher trailer tow rating.

rocky · 10-10-2011, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pearsonrj

Frame, brakes, axle, tire and wheel load ratings. Incremental differences in all of those things will allow for a higher trailer tow rating.

They share those parts.

Other reasons for the difference. Marketing?

RSQ Pilot · 10-10-2011, 09:02 AM

More power....MDX has more hp and low end torque

iggibar · 10-10-2011, 07:43 PM

They have different drive systems. That alone is enough to cover the differences. The MDX has permanent awd, which helps in its own.

RSQ Pilot · 10-10-2011, 07:46 PM

What's 500 lbs among friends????

osudelt69 · 10-10-2011, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RSQ Pilot

What's 500 lbs among friends????

LOL its not but its the difference between buying a 20 and 21 ft boat

I did notice in the manual that when measuring the rear suspension for tongue weight, the MDX sags less under weight, probably due to tighter suspension tuning??

RSQ Pilot · 10-10-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by osudelt69

LOL its not but its the difference between buying a 20 and 21 ft boat

I did notice in the manual that when measuring the rear suspension for tongue weight, the MDX sags less under weight, probably due to tighter suspension tuning??

Gross tow weight will include all gear, fuel and other junk thrown in with the boat and trailer. Then consider all gear and occupant weight of the Pilot or MDX and subtract all that from the gross combination weight rating of the tow vehicle and you may want a smaller boat.

2010exl · 10-11-2011, 07:42 AM

Is there any chance that a MDX weighs a few hundred pounds less than a Pilot?

Anyone have the vehicle weights handy?

RSQ Pilot · 10-11-2011, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010exl

Is there any chance that a MDX weighs a few hundred pounds less than a Pilot?

Anyone have the vehicle weights handy?

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N_Jay · 10-11-2011, 08:49 AM

Two rating include how quickly the vehicle can accelerate the allowed weight.

A little power could change which side of a marginal performance specification the vehicle is on.

2010exl · 10-12-2011, 02:40 PM

The MDX has 50 HP and 17 lb/ft of torque more than the Pilot.

the MDX also has a 6 speed transmission with a lower 1st gear for better torque multiplication. 3.36 1st and 2.10 2nd gear vs. 2.697 and 1.606 2nd for the Pilot.

Even with the Pilots slightly shorter final drive ratio, the MDX has shorter gearing thru out and probably is the biggest factor in the higher towing capacity

10-09-2011, 10:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
osudelt69 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: cincinnati, oh Posts: 132 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Pilot vs mdx towing Was lookng at owners manual for 11 pilot and 11 mdx and saw the mdx is rated for 5000 lbs trailer towing. Other than the engine, why the difference?

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pearsonrj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 44 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Frame, brakes, axle, tire and wheel load ratings. Incremental differences in all of those things will allow for a higher trailer tow rating. __________________ 2011 WDP/Black Touring 4WD 2008 Toyota Prius Touring 2007 Mazda MX-5

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iggibar Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cleveland Posts: 207 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	They have different drive systems. That alone is enough to cover the differences. The MDX has permanent awd, which helps in its own. __________________ 2011 Honda Pilot EX-4WD. [bought] 2011 Honda Accord Crosstour EXL-4WD. [leased] 2009 Ford Focus SE. [bought]

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N_Jay Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago, NW Burbs Posts: 13,556 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Two rating include how quickly the vehicle can accelerate the allowed weight. A little power could change which side of a marginal performance specification the vehicle is on. __________________ However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. Sir Winston Churchill

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10-11-2011, 07:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
2010exl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 196 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is there any chance that a MDX weighs a few hundred pounds less than a Pilot? Anyone have the vehicle weights handy?

10-12-2011, 02:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
2010exl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 196 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The MDX has 50 HP and 17 lb/ft of torque more than the Pilot. the MDX also has a 6 speed transmission with a lower 1st gear for better torque multiplication. 3.36 1st and 2.10 2nd gear vs. 2.697 and 1.606 2nd for the Pilot. Even with the Pilots slightly shorter final drive ratio, the MDX has shorter gearing thru out and probably is the biggest factor in the higher towing capacity

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