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Old 09-05-2011, 01:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 2011 Honda pilot and changed my oil today. I was planning to change the air filter as well. However, I don't see it in the manual. Where is it located and how often should you change?
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Its probably part of the MM protocol. Check the codes for the air filter replace one. FWIW no MM Pilots have a 15k change interval.

Look at this picture http://images.thecarconnection.com/l...00253125_l.jpg That big scoop is the air intake. Follow it to the box and inside that is the air filter.

While you are into filters, don't forget to change your cabin air filter too.
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I replaced mine with a K&N Day 1 when I took delivery of my 2011.
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I don't trust aftermarket air filter.. I used Aftermarket engine air filter on my camry. It got dirty very easily and I believe it didn't work well..

I am now using toyota OEM air filter. The quality is way better and air filter looking good at 15k miles.. OEM engine air filter fit perfect and didn't leave any gap when you closed it. Maybe thats the reason OEM is better and leave your engine air filter clean. Also the material on the OEM filter is great..

IF I were you, I will follow the MM and change the air filter accordingly. and use Honda OEM Engine air filter.
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I've had K&N Air Filter in my 2004 CR-V for 75k Miles of the 105k that's on it now. And I've seen 10%+ better fuel economy as a result. I've never, EVER had it in a repair shop for any repair. I change my own oil, and rotate the tires, and do my own brakes.

K&N seems to be a better built filter, to me, and has a better seal around the outside edge than the OEM. To each his own, however, I will say the Pilot OEM filter is the best looking OEM filter I've ever seen.
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I replaced mine with a K&N Day 1 when I took delivery of my 2011.
Perhaps you've not read this: http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/A050400.pdf
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I've had K&N Air Filter in my 2004 CR-V for 75k Miles of the 105k that's on it now. And I've seen 10%+ better fuel economy as a result. I've never, EVER had it in a repair shop for any repair. I change my own oil, and rotate the tires, and do my own brakes.

K&N seems to be a better built filter, to me, and has a better seal around the outside edge than the OEM. To each his own, however, I will say the Pilot OEM filter is the best looking OEM filter I've ever seen.
Everything I have ever seen (including a couple of university studies) indicates that increased airflow will not yield an increase in MPG. You'll get some minor HP boost, but not fuel economy. What was your baseline for comparison?
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You either get better HP or fuel economy, it's definitely not possible to get both.
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Everything I have ever seen (including a couple of university studies) indicates that increased airflow will not yield an increase in MPG. You'll get some minor HP boost, but not fuel economy. What was your baseline for comparison?
My baseline for comparison, was getting 11% better fuel economy after switching it out on my 2004 CR-V. I was getting 26-27mpg on highway before, and I made trip from WNY to Florida and got 30-31 every tank there & back, avg approx 70mph, with the AC on. That was the only thing I changed, so I can't really attribute the difference to any thing else.
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I worked at a Ford Dealer for 7 years. Most of the mechanics I talked to, including several who were lifetime, 30+ yrs there, used them.

The service manager told me why manufacturers don't sell K&N in their cars, for the most part! Because they are in the business of selling replacement parts. If they sell a K&N filter, with a standard 10 yr life, guaranteed for a million miles, how many filters are they going to sell over the life of a car? ONE!

Of course Honda is spouting that BS, because they want to sell more over priced air filters! Same reason they condensed down their Service Schedule...they want to do it, they don't want people who are educated by forums like this, to work on their own cars!
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Bump for the K&N. Have used them on eight cars over the decade and believe in them. All subjective for performance, but I do know my gas mileage had increased after each install.
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The service manager told me why manufacturers don't sell K&N in their cars, for the most part! Because they are in the business of selling replacement parts. If they sell a K&N filter, with a standard 10 yr life, guaranteed for a million miles, how many filters are they going to sell over the life of a car? ONE!

Of course Honda is spouting that BS, because they want to sell more over priced air filters!
If a K&N type filter was used as OEM, how much do you suppose a dealer would charge you (every 50K miles) to clean and re-oil it?

If you do-it-yourself, the break-even point for a K&N filter vs. a standard one is beyond 200K miles.
The K&N filter costs about three times as much as a standard one.
The clean/re-oil kit costs about the same as a standard filter.
Assume standard filter replacements every 25K miles and K&N clean/re-oil every 50K.
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I suppose it would be the break even point if you ignore fuel economy savings in your calculation...my K&N paid for itself the trip I made to Florida!
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And why anyone would pay the dealer to clean and oil the filter is beyond me, I'm sure it would cost an arm & leg at a dealership! One of the reasons I change my own oil too!
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Approx. how much more mpgs have you guys observed w/ installing the K&N? I'm highly considering installing one.
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