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Old 11-01-2010, 09:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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does anyone have this installed? i'm thinking of getting one for my wife and need input from owners. tia

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This topic has been discussed. Get one from Viper for more control.
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This topic has been discussed. Get one from Viper for more control.
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That comes off as a put down. That would be a bad habit to have.

You can be more helpful than that. Give the guy a link or reason for your statement.

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That was definitely not my intention Rocky and I appreciate you calling me out on this.
Sh3lby_pilot the only limitation that I see and from reading threads on this site.
The Honda system once started needs to be shutdown before you can enter the vehicle.
Then another restart of course and away you go, but if this is not a problem the Honda
remote starter is the way to go. Hope I got that right.
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thanks for the kind words. i like my viper 5900 on my 01 accord but the idea of the oem starter w/o disabling the factory immobilizer and keep the key button function is nice. I read the other thread about it having to start the car more than once is not good in the long run. I just thought honda might fix the issue since I saw the new remote is diff and has lcd screen.

if the function is not:
-remote start while door remains locked
-unlocked the doors
-put key in ignition II, step on the brake
-drive

still not worth gettin.

oh well, this might have been a good gift for wifey!
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Explain how the Honda setup works and let her make the decision.
Honda or aftermarket you'll definitely make points on this one.
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The OEM system stinks. Absolutely horrible....after you start the car remotely, you CANNOT unlock the doors until you stop the engine. If you attempt to use the key, the engine dies. Honda needs to take some time to study aftermarket remote starts, as well as the other OEM's remote starter systems.

Had it in the wifes Pilot for two weeks, and asked for my money back, dealer instead swapped it for a unit I would be satisfied with.
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......but the idea of the oem starter w/o disabling the factory immobilizer.....
The Honda OEM remote start unit still disables the immobilizer during remote start mode - it's no different from how an aftermarket system does it with the proper data interface.
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Hey all.

I've sat on not gettting a remote starter/alarm for the last year.


Then my neighbor just got his across the street 2 days ago. Same Pilot color but in touring, my sister ship

. I dont think its the OEM since he said he can turn remote start it(with doors locked), then he has to use the key in the keyhole to unlock/enter and then can get just drive off. I did not see the engine quit. And he does it all from the original honda key Fob. So I assume it is indeed the OEM remote?

And its from the dealer. I'm gonna step outside and go check again but that is what it seemed like.

So if that is hte case, I am conufsed why NOT to get the OEM Honda.


Neighbor brought up a point that since its a new car, his first Honda and he does not know how "straight up" honda would be about warrantees, he just went with the Honda OEM since perhaps an outside aftermarket install would invalidate the warrantee.

Has anyone ever had issue with putting in an non OEm aftermarter remote start and having warranty issues?
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That was definitely not my intention Rocky and I appreciate you calling me out on this.
Sh3lby_pilot the only limitation that I see and from reading threads on this site.
The Honda system once started needs to be shutdown before you can enter the vehicle.
Then another restart of course and away you go, but if this is not a problem the Honda
remote starter is the way to go. Hope I got that right.


OK, update. the instruction manual shows that he has an Avital 4003 in the car.

Using his original Honda key/fob and not an extra fob, he can start the car, then unlock it, then enter, key in hte ignition and drive off without having to shut down and restart (the apparent issue with the OEM starter.)

And the dealer installed it and he still has the valet key. Is that the way to go?


oh, BTW, after some negotiating issue, they "threw" in this system, valued at $900 per the dealer. I am that is a stealership tactic but....just FYI.

I've gotten quotes for a Viper 2 way 5300 for $550 to 650 installed. I am now going to see the link stated above. But considering what that Avital does, I wonder if the Viper is necessary.

COme ot think of it, wifey wants/likes a 2 way....


the research continues. But ...


with any aftermarket not installed by the dealer, has anyone had warranty issues?
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To be fair (and sorry if this has been mentioned)...
If your intent is to install the RES yourself and you are NOT an everyday installer, I'd go factory. The factory remote starts basically come with a wire harness that simply plugs in. Other than having to remove panels (which you have to do either way), the OEM remote starts are **far** easier to install. Unlike with aftermarket remote starts, you do NOT have to "splice" into any wires, install any relays (which invariably includes a lesson on what relays are and how they work), etc.

HOWEVER... They do, as previously stated, have far fewer features. Additionally, the OEM remote start (again, previously stated) will shut the engine off if you unlock the doors, put the key in the ignition, open the hood, etc. Aftermarket ones (most, if not all) allow you to unlock the car using the remote, get in, and put the key in the ignition and the engine will continue to run (as long as you don't press the brake pedal).

I just figured it was important to note the significant ease of installation difference between OEM and aftermarket.
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Aftermarket systems can be programmed to use the factory remote (i.e. hit the lock button 3 times to remote start). Dealers will sometimes subcontract a local shop/installer to do their aftermarket add-on stuff and then charge an outrageous price for it. From my experience the installation quality is usually subpar to MECP standards.

In regards to warranty issues.....if something OEM is damaged from an aftermarket part or installation then the warranty can be voided - but only on the part(s) that was damaged. So if the alarm caused damaged to the OEM immobilizer system then the warranty will be voided on just the immobilizer system. You will still have coverage on the engine, transmission, AC, etc.
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so if the installer is MECP certified, I should be OK?

It seems the stealership is subcontracting out to an installer that comes to their shop(I know this as an employee there told me) but I looked at the installer's B+M site and its states they are MECP certified.

So what do you think? safe bet?
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so if the installer is MECP certified, I should be OK?

It seems the stealership is subcontracting out to an installer that comes to their shop(I know this as an employee there told me) but I looked at the installer's B+M site and its states they are MECP certified.

So what do you think? safe bet?
Being MECP certified is the first step. I would need to see examples of the work. I would also ask a lot of questions (i.e. Are all or most connections/taps soldered and the taped appropriately? Where is the alarm brain being placed? Where is the siren going to be mounted (should be out of sight and not easily accessible)? What immobilizer bypass module is being used? Where are the LED and valet switch going to be mounted?

In the end, the install should be as OEM-looking as possible with the only indication of an aftermarket system being the LED and valet switch. IIRC the newer DEI stuff integrates the valet switch and antenna.
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Thanks for all that info. I called around and got price installs on a Viper 5901 as high as $550 and low as $349 as part of a 1 day special(which they will honor).


I appreciate those questions to ask. Thanks!
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