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Old 01-18-2014, 09:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Little background first, my wife and I purchased an 05 ex-l about 6 years ago and to this date I have had no problems with it what so ever. I just purchased an 07 Acura TL type s with the 6speed about 5 months ago and have been doing a ton of reading on acurazine.com about the auto transmissions in the 04-06 TL and is seems they share the same transmission problems with he 3rd and 4th gear pressure switches. I am about to replace these on the pilot and do a trans flush, the pilot has 180k miles and has never had a fluid change. Should I do a 3x3 all at once or space it out over a couple months and should I use Honda ATF or another brand ATF? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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1) Honda fluid
2) 4X not spaced out
3) Check fluid for condition in a month or so, given how late the change is, you might want to do it again.
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There is a number of us rebels that use Dexron 6 fluids, such as Maxlife ATF. My personal experience is that I have found the gearshifts firmer with Maxlife then DW1.

And my other suggestions are: going forward change the ATF every 15k miles and check the ATF pipe washers on the radiator, read this sticky

Replace radiator as insurance at 100K?
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Ody owners have also experienced better performance of the Maxlife ATF compared to the DW-1. I'd recommend the Maxlife over the Honda/Acura branded fluid. 180K without any tranny fluid exchange???? Wow!
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There is a number of us rebels that use Dexron 6 fluids, such as Maxlife ATF. My personal experience is that I have found the gearshifts firmer with Maxlife then DW1.

And my other suggestions are: going forward change the ATF every 15k miles and check the ATF pipe washers on the radiator, read this sticky

Replace radiator as insurance at 100K?
I replaced the radiator last year, it had developed a small leak in the seam on the top
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Fluid: your preference Honda or alternative fluid that is Honda compatible. I'm using redline based on the Acura forum with 15k changes.

As for one drain and refill v three, even with a single fluid change you'll notice a change in the shifting. I'm biased in favor of one at a time with a week of so between changes. But there is no doubt you need to change it out.

You should also be looking at brake fluid and Power steering fluid changes.
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Fluid: your preference Honda or alternative fluid that is Honda compatible. I'm using redline based on the Acura forum with 15k changes.

As for one drain and refill v three, even with a single fluid change you'll notice a change in the shifting. I'm biased in favor of one at a time with a week of so between changes. But there is no doubt you need to change it out.

You should also be looking at brake fluid and Power steering fluid changes.
I thought about redline 65% mixture but being a pilot I was thinking this might be overkill. I have already done both brake and PS fluids also
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My recommendation would be to use the Honda fluid, just do a 1x change, and change it somewhat more often than normal for the next 20K miles or so (e.g., change it when you change the engine oil). After this, carry on as Honda recommends.

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If the fluid has never been changed or really dirty, I wouldn't change it in any car with more than 120K miles on it. Seen too many cars tranny's go out, after changing the fluid. If your going to change it every 15K or 30K, or whatever, carry on.. If its never been done and your over 120K, I wouldn't do it.
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Seen too many cars tranny's go out, after changing the fluid. .
I have heard the same thing this w/e on a Scotty Kilmer youtube video.

Do you think that applied to all makes and models? Are some worse then others?
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If the fluid has never been changed or really dirty, I wouldn't change it in any car with more than 120K miles on it. Seen too many cars tranny's go out, after changing the fluid. If your going to change it every 15K or 30K, or whatever, carry on.. If its never been done and your over 120K, I wouldn't do it.
I think that is an old-wives-tale (or maybe negligent-husbands-tale).

My guess is lot of those changes are done when people start noticing a problem, and wake up to the fact they never did the fluid, . . .
THEN they change the fluid and blame that for the soon to happen failure.

If the fluid is bad you get it out of there, old fluid is not doing ANYTHING any good.

(Also wonder how many people take the their car to a local (and cheap ) transmission shop for this "Fist time in 100K miles" change, and the fluid monkey hooks up the pressure flusher and fills the Honda with whatever "dexron compatible" fluid they use?)
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If the fluid has never been changed or really dirty, I wouldn't change it in any car with more than 120K miles on it. Seen too many cars tranny's go out, after changing the fluid. If your going to change it every 15K or 30K, or whatever, carry on.. If its never been done and your over 120K, I wouldn't do it.
That's exactly why I think a single drain and refill is prudent followed by additional ones once some more miles have been put on.
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Just purchased a 2007 Pilot EX with about 88K miles on it. My shifting seems fine..the transmission fluid level is good and the color is a decent red. When would you suggest a drain and fill on this vehicle and then at what intervals after? Thanks!
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If you don't know the service history, I would change all the fluid once and then follow the normal schedule.
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I've seen a BMW with 150,000 miles on it, where the tranny went out just by adding a quart of fluid, to bring it up to the specified level....
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